Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who do not pay their bills
The US presidential hopeful says he would not protect any country failing to pay its bills.
Thoughts?
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"Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies"
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Thoughts?
Heyo
Veteran Member
None. No thoughts were involved in that statement.Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who do not pay their bills
The US presidential hopeful says he would not protect any country failing to pay its bills.www.bbc.com
Thoughts?
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Three thoughts;
He's nuts
This won't deter his supporters in the slightest
Something is really, deeply wrong in your country.
He's nuts
This won't deter his supporters in the slightest
Something is really, deeply wrong in your country.
Rational Agnostic
Well-Known Member
Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who do not pay their bills
The US presidential hopeful says he would not protect any country failing to pay its bills.
Thoughts?
Even though Trump has said so many outrageous and horrible things, he still never fails to surprise me with his new levels of insanity and dangerous rhetoric every day. That said, does any NATO country actually not pay their dues to NATO? I highly doubt that story he told is true, especially since it's pretty obvious he's a pathological liar.
Meanwhile, he mocks the absence of Halley's husband.
Sadly, neither will alienate his base.
Sadly, neither will alienate his base.
Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who do not pay their bills
The US presidential hopeful says he would not protect any country failing to pay its bills.
Thoughts?
If he actually paid his bills then i perhaps wouldn't see him as such a hypocrite.
Wait a moment, yes i would.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Yes, there most certainly is.
There are two aspects to this:
- the NATO Common Fund: this is the actual bill from NATO that covers expenses borne by NATO itself (e.g. the NATO HQ). There's a funding formula to determine every country's share. I haven't heard of any country not paying this bill.
- the NATO defense budget commitment: member nations have committed to spend 2% of their GDP on defense. The idea is that this is what would be needed for each country to "pull its weight" during NATO operations. IIRC, about half of the NATO members don't hit the 2% threshold (and never have).
I believe Trump is complaining about the second point (though I wouldn't put it past him to think that it's about a literal cheque that countries pay to NATO).
If he's on board with holding countries to commitments in international agreements as if they're set in stone, I've got some things to say to him about the Paris Accord.
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In his dreams.
I mean...it's obvious that we prefer to spend our GDP on healthcare.
After all that the NATO has done in Libya? LOL
Yes sure. In his dreams.
I mean...it's obvious that we prefer to spend our GDP on healthcare.
After all that the NATO has done in Libya? LOL
Yes sure. In his dreams.
Why would NATO ever do anything in Lybia, particularly to protect Ghadaffi's regime?
It would be quite the trick to even attempt to present some argument for that.
It would be quite the trick to even attempt to present some argument for that.
This is such a good time to not be a citizen of the USA...
I think Trump knows how to troll his haters.Trump says he would 'encourage' Russia to attack Nato allies who do not pay their bills
The US presidential hopeful says he would not protect any country failing to pay its bills.
Thoughts?
You mean "justify".
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Appearing to be irrational, incompetent, corrupt, and generally unfit for office is an awfully odd way for one to "troll their haters".
No, I meant troll. And you are proving my point.
Only those being trolled think that he is.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
Most NATO Countries in 2017 did not pay their fair share of their NATO obligation; 2% of GNP, except four; Poland, Greece, Great Britain, USA. By 2021; end of Trump, there were ten countries who reached the 2% mark, due to Trump's negotiating and peer pressure tactics. There are now 30 plus members in NATO. Under Biden, who will let the tab slide, not all 30 are paying their share.
If Trump gets in, I expect more countries will pay their fair share. It is better than the US pulling out and Europe having to pay the whole tab, since 2% of the US's GNP of $22trillion, is a lot of cash, compared to 2% of Luxembourg's GNP.
This threat is all hyperbole. Say a land locked country, Switzerland, refuses to pay the full 2%, but all the countries around them pay, will Russia become the collection firm, who will then have to get permits, to air lift combat troops, over the paying countries, to get to the land locked country, without upsetting any of the paying countries? Only the Left will think so. This hyperbole makes member countries think, it may be better to pay up, than have to meet the collection goons, with their crooked mafia noses and baseball bats. Trump talks the way of the streets, and Trump can be quite funny, if you understand him in that context. I know the streets.
Back in 2016, Trump made a comment about having Putin find Hillary lost e-mails. This panicked the Left ,who were so panicked they seemed to react to a real threat to their quid pro quo scams and schemes. The cover spin became Trump and Putin were allies, even though Putin done much better under Obama and Biden; expanded territory. This above comment is the same thing and the Left appears to be doing one of its famous spin and wash cycles, to cover up something, subtly implied, but not stated by Trump.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
If Trump defecated into his hand and proceeded to rub it all over his face you would claim that he's just trolling and playing 4D chess. It's a sad, desperate attempt to defend the indefensible. Maimonides would be deeply ashamed.