Trump signs order to keep families together, how will the left spin this?

[Shadow Wolf]

It doesn't need spun. He caused the need to reverse it. And not only that, it's yet another thing he's done and then went back on. It's fortunate that he did back down on this one, but adding a spin simply is not necessary. His "test by ratings" presidency is an embarrassment, and reveals just how little he knows.

 

[Shaul]

The way you guys talk, makes me feel if you could legally deport or murder all the left, you would do it without a second thought.

Ha ha ha ha, great impersonation of a delusional and paranoid person.

Wait, were you serious?

 

[Cacotopia]

no I wasn't serious, but I don't doubt that they have fantasies about it.

 

[Cacotopia]

Again, I don't think this is a left vs. right issue, it's an "I don't care about the issues, I just know that my side is good and their side is bad" issue.

hence the "satire" placed before the statement.

 

[Stanyon]

Man that was one short holocaust, how many were gassed, starved and or worked to death?

 

[ecco]

How will Fox spin it?

I popped over to Fox a couple of times to see how they were covering it. Maybe it was just coincidentally bad timing, but...
Fox was not covering it.

 

[idav]

Your thread has a different theme from the other one.
It's interesting.
There's policy.....
I look at a bad policy, which is now revoked.
Ideally, a better one will emerge.

But there are another couple ways to see it....
1) Trump supporters will say it reflects well upon him.
2) Anti-Trumpers will say he's still dirt.

Why make it more about feelings for the man,
& less about the policy? Seems so odd.

Problem is he didn’t revoke a policy, Trump added a stipulation to his horrible immigration policies that persist. Traumatizing children was definitely a sore point that needed addressing, naturally, now he will continue to traumatize the entire family.

 

[suncowiam]

Man that was one short holocaust, how many were gassed, starved and or worked to death?

No one mentioned any Holocaust.

When doctors and pediatricians come forward to say how harmful this is to children, I think we should follow.

Or do you not care even at their advice?

Is there any other way to stop illegal immigration but to risk the welfare of children?

 

[Yerda]

It's a defeat because the problem still stands.
Those entire families will be expelled, because they are illegal immigrants.

And the thousands of families seeking asylum?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

And the thousands of families seeking asylum?

And the families with some members citizens.

 

[LuisDantas]

I know I'd spin it as an example of what happens when your policies have to pander by nature to the most disgustingly racist elements of your society. The fact he was forced to backtrack should be taken as a victory for all decent people, not just those on the left.

This, exactly.

It is disgusting that there are still people who have it on them to ask how the answer will be presented, implying that somehow Trump should not be called to task for such a severe mistake.

It does not help his sorry case that he insisted on presenting the situation that he caused as the Democrats' fault.

The guy is a shame for humanity.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Many conservatives were against this policy too.

I don't disagree. I think it's a good move too. I can still see a short temporary separation for purposes of health processing and interview reasons. Even considerations for a legal means to acquire citizenship, depending on the reasons they left in the first place with an understanding that it may or may not be granted.

 

[PureX]

Here's the story behind the headlines.

Meet Stephen Miller, the 32-year-old White House adviser who convinced Trump to start separating migrant children from their parents at the border ...

LINK HERE

 

[Revoltingest]

Problem is he didn’t revoke a policy, Trump added a stipulation to his horrible immigration policies that persist. Traumatizing children was definitely a sore point that needed addressing, naturally, now he will continue to traumatize the entire family.

One can argue about whether "revoke" is appropriate.
But the change exists nonetheless.

About traumatization of the family.
Is it even possible to secure borders without trauma being inflicted
upon those who'd gain illegal entry, particularly those with children?
Even under Obama, things differed only in magnitude.
Was policy good then?
It appears that there's no solution which will please all. Policy will
fall somewhere between open borders & families torn apart by
imprisonment of parents.

 

[metis]

The usual liberal whining and moaning and crying that it's facetious on Trump's part in all of this.

You mean like yours above?

 

[metis]

Man that was one short holocaust, how many were gassed, starved and or worked to death?

And I'm sure if your children were removed and you had no idea if you'd ever see them again you'd write and post the above, right?

I may be old-fashioned, but I just believe that there are some things that are just plain morally wrong and intentionally taking actions that hurt children in one of them.

 

[1137]

I feel sorry for immigrants... it's gotta be a miserable crisis to be in sometimes...but still, they should enter the country legally...otherwise they are criminals and they should receive consequences for having disregard for the laws of the land...

And it's not like they laws are there for fun. We have a duty to our fellow citizens towards safety and stability.

It doesn't need spun. He caused the need to reverse it. And not only that, it's yet another thing he's done and then went back on. It's fortunate that he did back down on this one, but adding a spin simply is not necessary. His "test by ratings" presidency is an embarrassment, and reveals just how little he knows.

He caused it despite it happening before he was in office? I also find it amusing that Trump being able to change his mind and admit he may have been wrong is seen as bad by you guys, that's a spin. Of course he wasn't wrong, kids shouldn't be imprisoned, that's ****ing disgusting. But hey congrats I guess.

no I wasn't serious, but I don't doubt that they have fantasies about it.

Killing people? No, but I can't say I have the deepest respect for those who fought and won to make children sit in jail for their parents sins.

Man that was one short holocaust, how many were gassed, starved and or worked to death?

Haha right? Hell most of those children were in better environments than the foster placements I've investigated. Sadly the left doesn't give a damn how children in its own country are treated, it doesn't lead directly to Trump bashing.

Problem is he didn’t revoke a policy, Trump added a stipulation to his horrible immigration policies that persist. Traumatizing children was definitely a sore point that needed addressing, naturally, now he will continue to traumatize the entire family.

His policy that has gone on for generation? So horrible that you only care about children when it can lead to attacking Trump, but y'all didn't care before under Obama. Yes, I agree throwing kids in prison will be traumatizing, but it's what this joke of a country asked for (screamed and threw a tantrum for).

This, exactly.

It is disgusting that there are still people who have it on them to ask how the answer will be presented, implying that somehow Trump should not be called to task for such a severe mistake.

It does not help his sorry case that he insisted on presenting the situation that he caused as the Democrats' fault.

The guy is a shame for humanity.

Haha yet you and the rest of the left supported the incarceration of kids. Your ethics make no sense to me

 

[1137]

D

And I'm sure if your children were removed and you had no idea if you'd ever see them again you'd write and post the above, right?

I may be old-fashioned, but I just believe that there are some things that are just plain morally wrong and intentionally taking actions that hurt children in one of them.

Yeah actually, I've worked in social work for years and so I know if I commit a crime it's possible my kids will be taken away. It's sad nobdy cared about those kids before Trump, actually they still don't care about citizens in terrible care for decades, because that can't be blamed on Trump.

 

[Cacotopia]

Blanket statements are always wrong and you are all guilty of it.

"the left hate children" Pretty big lie there, just like

"the right hate the justice system they would rather themselves shoot first and be questioned later, the dead tell no tales, better execute all the witnesses."


Did you see what I did there?

 

[Stanyon]

No one mentioned any Holocaust.

You sure about that?

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