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Trump signs order to keep families together, how will the left spin this?

Cacotopia

Let's go full Trottle
let's give a round number, 50% of America wants to jail all immigrant children and put them all in internment camps away from their parents.


Does that sound like a true statement to you?

Or.

Are you just a liar.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
I don't disagree. I think it's a good move too. I can still see a short temporary separation for purposes of health processing and interview reasons. Even considerations for a legal means to acquire citizenship, depending on the reasons they left in the first place with an understanding that it may or may not be granted.

Many Democrats including myself are against illegal immigration but we don't compare them to murderers and rapists. They need to follow the same rules and procedures as others that have applied.

I was a refugee who fled communism on a small boat. Some times, borders are the least of our worries.

It is what it is and US should just accept that many people view it as a land of opportunity. Is that really a crime to separate them from their children. Why else would they risk taking their kids instead of staying put.

I was only four when my parents migrated. We could have easily died on that boat but they concluded it was out only choice.
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member

Well, I don't agree with it. And would agree with you on such a straw man tactic.

Both sides go to extremes. Why aren't you harping on Fox calling it a summer camp?

My point is not all of of the left is making such statements.

Plus it doesn't have to be equivalent of the Holocaust to make it wrong. It is simply wrong for forcing children away from their parents.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yeah actually, I've worked in social work for years and so I know if I commit a crime it's possible my kids will be taken away.
Well, you didn't do your homework very well because it is not established if they're coming in is a "crime" until a judge rules as such and, according to ICE, about half appear to be refugees, so their coming in is not classified as a "crime" because of both national and international law.

It's sad nobdy cared about those kids before Trump, actually they still don't care about citizens in terrible care for decades, because that can't be blamed on Trump.
Complete unadulterated nonsense. Even though both Bush and Obama had the legal right to separate families prior to a court ruling, neither of them did it.

Do you get your "news" from Fox, by chance? Sounds like you're parroting their partisan talking-points.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
I can still see a short temporary separation for purposes of health processing and interview reasons.
How does separating a five year old from their parent assist immigration authorities in the interview process? Would a five year old know whether they ever had an illness or if they have had immunization shots?
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
In terms of most positive outcome, I'd be very happy if we could expeditiously and humanely vet those seeking asylum, giving the overwhelming majority of them a path to citizenship, while identifying the pro-Trump nativists scum so willing to use children as trade-bait, giving the overwhelming majority of them a path to El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
How does separating a five year old from their parent assist immigration authorities in the interview process? Would a five year old know whether they ever had an illness or if they have had immunization shots?
There's more to an interview than just health. Other factors need to be weighed in like child abuse issues etc. Hospitals for instance routinely now separate husbands from wives and family temporarily so they can ask separate members questions related to domestic abuse.

I'm not sure if they actually do that or not but I can't see them not doing that.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
There's more to an interview than just health. Other factors need to be weighed in like child abuse issues etc. Hospitals for instance routinely now separate husbands from wives and family temporarily so they can ask separate members questions related to domestic abuse.

I'm not sure if they actually do that or not but I can't see them not doing that.
I think there is a significant difference between a doctor asking someone into a separate exam room to ask some questions and agents of the government spiriting children off to a different part of the country in the dead of night without telling the parents where they are going.
 
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