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Trump the Greatest President Ever...

dfnj

Well-Known Member
In coming months, I expect Trump will usher in a new caravan of superlatives: Most faithful spouse in history. Least nepotistic person in America. Greatest gentleman in the world. Least susceptible to flattery. Most polite Twitter user. Least likely to watch cable news. And the humblest person — by far. He will be, in short, the greatest role model of all time.to the greatest president ever

GW Bush is the greatest president of all time, "Mission Accomplished". He got more of his administration's agenda accomplished than any other president in my lifetime. Obama was the least effective president in my lifetime. Obama got the least of amount accomplished of anything he campaigned on.
 

dfnj

Well-Known Member
Uhhh...there is no trade war; China blinked. So if your very first statement is specious then the rest of your post would sorta be in doubt. Wouldn't it?

China did not blink. The Yuan is still pegged to the dollar around 6 to 1. The dollar is a unit labor cost. This means the CEO gets six Chinese workers for every one American worker. If the Yuan were allowed to float against the dollar to its true value our factories would return.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
True given that the right stonewalled anything he proposed.

Part of the blame for that does go to Obama. One of the worries when he got elected was at how green he was politically. This is where Bill Clinton shined. He did some of his best work when the Republicans had control of the Congress.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
This will genuinely surprise most of you, I think, but I've actually come to kind of like Trump. I'm pretty sure it was seeing him in shades that started it. I know how superficial that must sound, but please bear with me. I got to thinking, "That guy can't be all bad if he can look genuinely cool at his age in shades. Maybe should rethink just how much I really know about him."

Then, a week or more later, I heard him talking and realized for the first time -- I don't really know why I didn't notice it before -- that he's more calm, collected, and laid back than I'd given him credit for. Which you've got to admit even if you don't like the man, that's pretty impressive for a president who is, like any president, always under pressure 24/7.

It also helped that he wears sensible shoes. It hints of him being a genuine down-to-earth guy, if you aren't being prejudiced about it

But the real clincher for me was to come across this new photograph by -- I suspect -- the official White House photographer. I think it does him far more justice than the snapshots they all took of him on the campaign trail. There's nothing quite like dramatic, moody lighting to suggest the true character of a man.

The photo is a kind of on the large side, though, so I'm putting it in spoilers:

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Phantasman

Well-Known Member
Read the article. It explains why you are wrong.
OK. I read the article from 2015 as you asked. Now read mine from Nov 2017:

New missile test shows North Korea capable of hitting all of US mainland - CNNPolitics

Once NK tested a misslie that left the atmosphere, it can travel until it's ready to come down, virtually as far as Washington, DC. This is when Trump realized the threat such missile could produce if it was tipped with a nuclear warhead. So the testing data you show is old (from 2015) as NK has performed many tests since then.

Wrong?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
OK. I read the article from 2015 as you asked. Now read mine from Nov 2017:

New missile test shows North Korea capable of hitting all of US mainland - CNNPolitics

Once NK tested a misslie that left the atmosphere, it can travel until it's ready to come down, virtually as far as Washington, DC. This is when Trump realized the threat such missile could produce if it was tipped with a nuclear warhead. So the testing data you show is old (from 2015) as NK has performed many tests since then.

Wrong?
They have performed tests since then, but the heart of the article still stands. An unprovoked attack, even the false flag fantasy of yours. is unlikely to end up with a nuclear strike, even if they could reach us. One has to look at what one could lose and what one could gain by an actual attack. North Korea still stands to instantly lose if they tried such an attack.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
THAT we agree on.

Still, the summit will be good for Trump to get a first hand view of Kim and his true intentions, that have been latent for so many decades.

A good thing.
So why did Trump say the summit was off? And now the flip-flop? I think Trump understood his amateurish leadership.
 
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