Trump to Purge Generals

[stvdv]

I can see what is coming

#MeToo, which is not that hard, if you take these words of Trump serious

All should watch this, just in ca. 3 seconds Trump tells us how it will be done from now on. No one, who can hear, can claim "I didn't expect that"

Here Trump tells us how it will be done:

 

[BrightShadow]

What are the "woke" policies you object to?

Any examples?

You can't be serious. Are you really that clueless? I thought you were just kidding.
Twilight Hue already pointed out in his post #50.
Reinstatement of "don't ask - don't tell" policy.

Allowing gays to be open about their preference may work in a non-military setting but when you depend on each other and have to share all the facilities (showers/tents) - it makes it a perfect ground for quarrels. It is one thing to not know and yet another thing to know.

It is a distraction and soldiers need to be free from distraction.

Soldiers need to be free from internal conflicts. It is hard to bond when you are teasing each other all day.
Do you want a well bonded group of soldiers or do you want soldiers irritated with their comrades?
Dems are the 'woke' pomoters. They need to let the nature take its course. Certain policies should not be pushed onto folks who are not ready for it. In time it can be incorporated. Soldiers from small town may need more time. Have the decency to give them more time.

 

[F1fan]

Making high profile enemies in the military is such a dumb idea, putting them on the unemployment list potentially just opens them up to selling military secrets to foreign actors in my view.

But I doubt Trump thinks of consequences of his actions.

I would think the ones Trump wants out are the ethical patriots. The ones to worry about are who remain.

The big question we face is: Do senate republicans have balls?

Reporting says that Trump intends to purge anyone who worked with Mark Milley. Why? Is it a Keyser Soze thing to get rid of friends and friends of friends to make a point about not expressing personal opinions about the criminal president elect? Can the forum MAGAs explain this to us? Is this what you wanted when you cast your vote?

 

[F1fan]

You know what I know?

My cat does.

 

[F1fan]

Vance even admitted it himself, but he also explained why. Looks like you missed that memo.

He said Trump is America's Hitler. Now he's America's Geobels. I'm sure his wife is so proud.

 

[Revoltingest]

You can't be serious.

I'm trying to discern what you
believe, & what concerns you.

Are you really that clueless?

About your views, yes I am.
You've been complaining much,
but only generally & vaguely.

I thought you were just kidding.
Twilight Hue already pointed out in his post #50.
Reinstatement of "don't ask - don't tell" policy.

Allowing gays to be open about their preference may work in a non-military setting but when you depend on each other and have to share all the facilities (showers/tents) - it is makes it a perfect ground for quarrels. It is one thing to not know and yet another thing to know.

It is a distraction and soldiers need to be free from distraction.

Soldiers need to be free from internal conflicts. It is hard to bond when you are teasing each other all day.
Do you want a well bonded group of soldiers or do you want soldiers irritated with their comrades?
Dems are the 'woke' pomoters. They need to let the nature take its course. Certain policies should not be pushed onto folks who are not ready for it. In time it can be incorporated. Soldiers from small town may need more time. Have the decency to give them more time.

Your posts still say nothing.
Your "distraction" complaint doesn't say by what.
The policies you object to are still unstated.

If you don't want to say, I'll stop pressuring you.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

You can't be serious. Are you really that clueless? I thought you were just kidding.
Twilight Hue already pointed out in his post #50.
Reinstatement of "don't ask - don't tell" policy.

Allowing gays to be open about their preference may work in a non-military setting but when you depend on each other and have to share all the facilities (showers/tents) - it is makes it a perfect ground for quarrels. It is one thing to not know and yet another thing to know.

It is a distraction and soldiers need to be free from distraction.

Soldiers need to be free from internal conflicts. It is hard to bond when you are teasing each other all day.
Do you want a well bonded group of soldiers or do you want soldiers irritated with their comrades?
Dems are the 'woke' pomoters. They need to let the nature take its course. Certain policies should not be pushed onto folks who are not ready for it. In time it can be incorporated. Soldiers from small town may need more time. Have the decency to give them more time.

And some o' dem white boys don't like the darkies, and get all distracted when around them. "Don't ask, don't tell" ain't gonna help them out a bit.

What a load of horse manure.

 

[Viker]

You can't be serious. Are you really that clueless? I thought you were just kidding.
Twilight Hue already pointed out in his post #50.
Reinstatement of "don't ask - don't tell" policy.

Allowing gays to be open about their preference may work in a non-military setting but when you depend on each other and have to share all the facilities (showers/tents) - it is makes it a perfect ground for quarrels. It is one thing to not know and yet another thing to know.

It is a distraction and soldiers need to be free from distraction.

Soldiers need to be free from internal conflicts. It is hard to bond when you are teasing each other all day.
Do you want a well bonded group of soldiers or do you want soldiers irritated with their comrades?
Dems are the 'woke' pomoters. They need to let the nature take its course. Certain policies should not be pushed onto folks who are not ready for it. In time it can be incorporated. Soldiers from small town may need more time. Have the decency to give them more time.

How about military personnel stick to doing their jobs and not be concerned with what others do in their spare time. There'd be no internal conflict if they would just focus on the objectives ahead of them.

I'm sick of the "distraction" excuse. If soldiers are so easily distracted they need to find work elsewhere. Snap to it!

 

[BrightShadow]

How about military personnel stick to doing their jobs and not be concerned with what others do in their spare time. There'd be no internal conflict if they would just focus on the objectives ahead of them.

I'm sick of the "distraction" excuse. If soldiers are so easily distracted they need to find work elsewhere. Snap to it!

In a military camp setting where they have to share all the facilities (shower/tent) - they have to learn how to tolerate each other. Many are not ready. Let the nature take its course.

We need undistracted atmosphere at the military camp sites.

Do your woke voodoo on the rest of the world before going after the military camps.
To fight for the privilege of a few to serve - you are messing with the minds of many who are not ready.

Wait until the rest of the world accepts in a more profound way and then expand your network over the military. Don't force it on them to accept.
You got folks with weapons in their hands and you want them to be irritated at each other?
Dems are a majority here at RF. Look how you Dems talk against anyone who thinks differently. Imagine if you guys were going after us with weapon in hand.

 

[Viker]

Do your woke voodoo on the rest of the world before going after the military camps.
To fight for the privilege of a few to serve - you are messing with the minds of many who are not ready.

People make some silly excuses. The same excuses they made when integrating blacks, Latinos, women, etc. Most military personnel already don't care. This seems to be more of a civilian debate.

 

[Viker]

Dems are a majority here at RF. Look how you Dems talk against anyone who thinks differently. Imagine if you guys were going after us with weapon in hand.

Who said the majority of RF members are Dems.

BTW, no Dems have ever threatened their "enemies" with military actions. That seems to be exclusively the theme coming from many Reps, outside of the RF, these days.

 

[BrightShadow]

People make some silly excuses. The same excuses they made when integrating blacks, Latinos, women, etc. Most military personnel already don't care. This seems to be more of a civilian debate.

Some don't care. And that is why you have three groups.
Them, for them and against them!
More conflicts! No chance of bonding and watching each others back!

 

[Viker]

Some don't care. And that is why you have three groups.
Them, for them and against them!
More conflicts! No chance of bonding and watching each others back!

People lacking any focus on their goals bend things out of shape making things into issues that need not be something else at all.

 

[BrightShadow]

People lacking any focus on their goals bend things out of shape making things into issues that need not be something else at all.

And because you don't see a problem - you guys pushed your woke agendas too far and went overboard with it and lost at the polls.
Now swim to the shore and figure out another way you can proceed.
A more practical approach.
Let nature take its course.

 

[esmith]

Then can you explain what is "woke" in the military?

I really don't know. It would be nice to have an explanation or example.

What gives you the idea that I meant "woke"?
Many things happend in my Navy that I found out later that I disagreed with, the first one I heard about was eliminating requirement to gain access to various Navy clubs. Offficers Club, Chiefs Club, Acey-Deucey (E6-E5) Club. I now understand that an E-1 can enter Chiefs club unless it is reserved for a CPO function. I also disagree with different physical requirements set for male and females to enter special programs. Since I have been out of the military for over 43 years I'm not sure what else has changed since I am no longer directly affected and haven't kept up with it but I do hear grumblings.
The military is for defending the country not a place to experiement with culture.

 

[Viker]

The military is for defending the country not a place to experiement with culture

What if more people from an extensive culture like ours want to serve and can already demonstrate aptitude and physical ability to do so? No one is talking about "experimenting". What could possibly exclude gays, for instance, from serving if they already meet the necessary prerequisites?

 

[F1fan]

In a military camp setting where they have to share all the facilities (shower/tent) - they have to learn how to tolerate each other. Many are not ready. Let the nature take its course.

That's why the military teaches discipline. Not all people who join the military have what it takes.

We need undistracted atmosphere at the military camp sites.

No, discipline is needed. If troops are easily distracted then they aren't fit.

And what makes you an expert anyway?

Do your woke voodoo on the rest of the world before going after the military camps.

Ah, so the immature MAGAs can't handle it. You guys just aren't fit. It's amazing you guys can get to work on time and grocery shop on your own.

What is called "woke" are mature and capable people who aren't struggling with their excessive bias and lack of discipline like MAGAs show themselves to be.

To fight for the privilege of a few to serve - you are messing with the minds of many who are not ready.

You have little respect for those servicemembers who have discipline and can handle working with women. How did you develop such disrespect and contempt for mature men?

Wait until the rest of the world accepts in a more profound way and then expand your network over the military. Don't force it on them to accept.

So you think the rest of the world should not mature, and learn discipline? Just because MAGAs are lazy doesn't mean the rest of the world has to lower its standard.

You got folks with weapons in their hands and you want them to be irritated at each other?

That's why we need those who are mature and disciplined, not a bunch of insecure MAGA men. You guys can find a place somewehre else in society, maybe warehouse work. Jobs that don't require too much.

Dems are a majority here at RF. Look how you Dems talk against anyone who thinks differently. Imagine if you guys were going after us with weapon in hand.

We disagree with ideas, just as you do. So we can't express disagreement, but you can? More MAGA privilege. MAGAs don't do well in open debate because they have beliefs, but struggle to expalin how their beliefs are rational and factual. Look at your comment above, it's you who is intolerant but you blame critical thinkers.

Why can't you defend your ideas with facts and a coherent argument? That's the question.

 

[Copernicus]

that are 'woke.'

I can see what is coming. Trump has vowed to purge the military of all 'woke' generals. This is a cover story for him to remove any general he suspects will not obey his orders to attack American citizens when he invokes the 1798 Alien Enemies Act to deport immigrants.

Stalin would be proud.

No one who has been listening to this man should be surprised. I have long suspected that most of his supporters stopped listening to him or taking him seriously long ago. Now they will learn why "Be careful what you wish for" is such a common admonition. They are going to have to learn that lesson the hard way. They weren't listening to Trump or those of us who tried to warn them.

 

[F1fan]

What gives you the idea that I meant "woke"?
Many things happend in my Navy that I found out later that I disagreed with, the first one I heard about was eliminating requirement to gain access to various Navy clubs. Offficers Club, Chiefs Club, Acey-Deucey (E6-E5) Club. I now understand that an E-1 can enter Chiefs club unless it is reserved for a CPO function. I also disagree with different physical requirements set for male and females to enter special programs. Since I have been out of the military for over 43 years I'm not sure what else has changed since I am no longer directly affected and haven't kept up with it but I do hear grumblings.
The military is for defending the country not a place to experiement with culture.

I'm sure there were a lot of white men who did not like that the armed forces was desegregated. That was 1948. Racism still existed, but we had to progress to help keep the miltary functioning. Today it's not a major issue. Today gays in the military isn't a major problem. There are still fearful men who do have a problem with this, and women being in the military.

Executive Order 9981, Desegregating the Military (U.S. National Park Service)

www.nps.gov

 

[F1fan]

No one who has been listening to this man should be surprised. I have long suspected that most of his supporters stopped listening to him or taking him seriously long ago. Now they will learn why "Be careful what you wish for" is such a common admonition. They are going to have to learn that lesson the hard way. They weren't listening to Trump or those of us who tried to warn them.

Trump has that skill to say everything, including conflicting things. To rational minds this disqualifies him. To those seeking a leader to follow they will tune out everything they don't want to hear, and only hear what validates their desires. It reminds me of the Far Side cartoon where the dog owner speaks to his Dog, but the dog hears Blah blah blah blah Daisy. Blah blah blah blah.