Trump Wages War Of Oppression Against Gays

[Father Heathen]

Yes, sad isn't it?
I wonder who's going to have tomorrow's children when we
have a generation of homosexuals, lesbians and trans?
What we will continue doing is ensuring those poor brown
immigrants bear kids for us.

So gays have the magical power to turn the rest of the world gay? Are you sure you're not confusing them with leprechauns?

 

[Father Heathen]

Oops....that should be "Against" instead of "Of".
(Let no one accuse me of intentional clickbait.)
Does this thug's evil know no bounds!?

Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality
BERLIN — The Trump administration is launching a global campaign to end the criminalization of homosexuality in dozens of nations where it's still illegal to be gay, U.S. officials tell NBC News, a bid aimed in part at denouncing Iran over its human rights record.

U.S. Ambassador to Germany Richard Grenell, the highest-profile openly gay person in the Trump administration, is leading the effort, which kicks off Tuesday evening in Berlin. The U.S. embassy is flying in LGBT activists from across Europe for a strategy dinner to plan to push for decriminalization in places that still outlaw homosexuality — mostly concentrated in the Middle East, Africa and the Caribbean.

“It is concerning that, in the 21st century, some 70 countries continue to have laws that criminalize LGBTI status or conduct,” said a U.S. official involved in organizing the event.

That's great, but it's unfortunate that the administration hasn't been consistent regarding LGBT rights. Also, I don't imagine that they'll be boasting about this too much, as not to anger or alienate the base.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Yes, sad isn't it?
I wonder who's going to have tomorrow's children when we
have a generation of homosexuals, lesbians and trans?
What we will continue doing is ensuring those poor brown
immigrants bear kids for us.

Oh my! Does this sound like an implication that white people are somehow becoming gay and not having any children?

 

[PruePhillip]

Oh my! Does this sound like an implication that white people are somehow becoming gay and not having any children?

Absolutely. The birth rate among white women is very low. This is not
an issue with the issue crowd and cause pushers. The end result is:
1 - collapsing birth rate, effecting pensions, growth, national debt etc..
2 - the occupation of your country by other cultures.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is good... But I say it with hesitation. He hasn't been consistent concerning the LGBT community.

So isn't the transgender ban still ongoing in the military?

Frankly, I'm confused...

I see those as mostly separate issues.
Trans soldiers have cost & readiness problems relative to non-trans.
But oppression....there's no excuse for that.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

What we don't hear is gays waging war on everyone else.
It's not a fashionable way of thinking.
In Australia in 2018 the gay lobby went after a corporation
which had a Christian on its board who belonged to a
church opposed to homosexuality.

It's happened multiple times, actually, but I'd caution you on talking about 'the gay lobby'. They're not that organised.
The instances I'm aware of was more individual activists using social media to put pressure on companies.

In 2018 Tasmanian gays went after the Catholic archbishop
for a leaflet he had printed outlining the bible's POV on gays.
It was termed "hate speech" but lots of thinking people
wondered who was doing the hating.

You mean this?
‘I am disgusted with what they’ve done’

Personally, I think handing out a booklet to children...who can't vote...was pretty disingenuous.
Further, I think us having a plebiscite at all was a complete cop-out designed to pander to the minority of conservative voters, and allow the Libs to avoid ownership of the decision to legalise marriage equality.
It was a complete waste of money, and had no clear purpose other than that.
But sure, the 'gay lobby' is too powerful, and is waging war on the poor helpless...err...who are they waging war on, incidentally? I'm a straight white male, they sure as heck aren't waging war on me, and I frankly feel embarrassed about how the whole marriage equality discussion went since the time Julia Gillard was in office.

With the gay lobby, like lots of other social activist groups
(polygamists are next) if you don't agree then you are
supposed to roll over and die. You are racist, homophobic,
sexist, transphobic - and next polygamphobic and even
pederastphobic. You will be shouted down, your books
burned, you will be fined or go to jail, you will even be told
what terms you use to describe people.

Paper bags are good for hyperventilation.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, sad isn't it?
I wonder who's going to have tomorrow's children when we
have a generation of homosexuals, lesbians and trans?
What we will continue doing is ensuring those poor brown
immigrants bear kids for us.

That would actually be great, if true!
It would solve the over-population problem.

 

[PruePhillip]

So gays have the magical power to turn the rest of the world gay? They're you sure you're not confusing them with leprechauns?

True, gays have power to make the rest of the world gay.
Gay Marriage is now an issue in Japan, Taiwan, Cuba and
Kenya, for starters.
The term 'mother' and 'father' is now banned in France.

A generation ago if you said gays want gay marriage you
were reviled as being extremist and exaggerating. Not now.
One year ago if you said the terms 'mother' and 'father'
were going to be banned you would again be taken to task
for fear mongering and exaggeration.
What's next? See my profile tag below.

 

[suncowiam]

What we don't hear is gays waging war on everyone else.
It's not a fashionable way of thinking.
In Australia in 2018 the gay lobby went after a corporation
which had a Christian on its board who belonged to a
church opposed to homosexuality.
In 2018 Tasmanian gays went after the Catholic archbishop
for a leaflet he had printed outlining the bible's POV on gays.
It was termed "hate speech" but lots of thinking people
wondered who was doing the hating.

With the gay lobby, like lots of other social activist groups
(polygamists are next) if you don't agree then you are
supposed to roll over and die. You are racist, homophobic,
sexist, transphobic - and next polygamphobic and even
pederastphobic. You will be shouted down, your books
burned, you will be fined or go to jail, you will even be told
what terms you use to describe people.

Hmmm, I wouldn't literally call it waging war, but yes the homosexual community has disputes with various communities particularly those of religious backgrounds.

It's really game of cat and mouse. You suggest LGBT are attacking your community but they would probably label it as defending their own rights from your community.

Let's be straight-forward about this. That's my way of saying, let's be honest about this. Religion hasn't exactly been kind to LGBT folks? Religion views it as a sin and because so, pretty much denotes them as second class citizens. If religion had its way, what rights would any LGBT have compared to the rights of religious folks?

Why then are you surprise and defensive with the nature of how LGBT approaches religion?

 

[suncowiam]

I see those as mostly separate issues.
Trans soldiers have cost & readiness problems relative to non-trans.
But oppression....there's no excuse for that.

I don't understand what you mean here?

There are a set of rules and tests that every person, male or female has to oblige by to be accepted by the military. If a person, regardless of anything can pass those tests, then I don't see any problems in allowing them to.

What are your speaking specifically of?

 

[PruePhillip]

Personally, I think handing out a booklet to children...who can't vote...was pretty disingenuous.

Forget handing out booklets, give them whole books, beginning from grade 1.
And then start removing books - not burning, that's bad PR, just quietly remove
them. This is going to happen in France now with the banning of the words
'mother' and 'father.'

Paper bags are good for hyperventilation.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's great, but it's unfortunate that the administration hasn't been consistent regarding LGBT rights. Also, I don't imagine that they'll be boasting about this too much, as not to anger or alienate the base.

Meh.....progress is progress.
No need to find a cloud around a silver lining.
We will see how it goes.

 

[Father Heathen]

True, gays have power to make the rest of the world gay.
Gay Marriage is now an issue in Japan, Taiwan, Cuba and
Kenya, for starters.
The term 'mother' and 'father' is now banned in France.

A generation ago if you said gays want gay marriage you
were reviled as being extremist and exaggerating. Not now.
One year ago if you said the terms 'mother' and 'father'
were going to be banned you would again be taken to task
for fear mongering and exaggeration.
What's next? See my profile tag below.

Damn... I better grab a gayger counter to measure for any spikes in gaydiation. I have been feeling a bit more fabulous than usual lately.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So, if he supports homosexuals, why in the ****ing hell did he pick Pence as his VP?

 

[Revoltingest]

The push to end laws that outlaw homosexuality abroad also stands in contrast to the Trump administration’s mixed record on gay rights at home.​

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In what ways?

 

[suncowiam]

So, if he supports homosexuals, why in the ****ing hell did he pick Pence as his VP?

Because Homosexuals weren't going to vote for him. That was an easy one to answer.

 

[PruePhillip]

You suggest LGBT are attacking your community but they would probably label it as defending their own rights from your community.

So when are they going to throw you in jail for using terms
the LGBT community don't like? Personal pronouns in
Canada are under the eye of the law now. Same with mother
and father terms in France.

Let's get this straight - this is attacking. This is war. This is
Cultural Marxism, right out of the books of Antonio Gramski.
the Frankfurt School and the Post-Modernists. Issues of
gender, polygamy, pederasty, gay marriage are just side
shows to all this.

 

[Revoltingest]

So, if he supports homosexuals, why in the ****ing hell did he pick Pence as his VP?

Spoiler: It's obvious

Broaden his voter base.

 

[PruePhillip]

That would actually be great, if true!
It would solve the over-population problem.

Over-population problem? What Western country has
an over-population problem?
Where I live the population has been growing older.
Businesses are slowly going. Few kids about. The
fire brigade is about to shut down for lack of volunteers.
The historic society's youngest member is me - and I
am retired.
We rely upon immigrants to come and have children.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't understand what you mean here?

There are a set of rules and tests that every person, male or female has to oblige by to be accepted by the military. If a person, regardless of anything can pass those tests, then I don't see any problems in allowing them to.

What are your speaking specifically of?

I'm speculating here about trans folk in the military.
Possibly....
- Higher long term health costs & risks
- Psychological & physical issues reducing readiness

Now remember that I'm not making this argument.
Just considering it as possibly cromulent.