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Trump wants to pardon himself?

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
Now you're playing the race card. Everyone knows Russia is an enemy. All of a sudden your favorite RW outlets have you fawning over your dear leader. That's dangerous and you don't even know why.

I'd advise stop voting for a party that doesn't care about you outside your vote. There's a reason conservatives hate their own party.
ROTFL........
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
It is not about the Russian people, no one has said that. This is a blatant straw man argument.

It is about the Russian government that kills journalists, kills rival politicians, invaded and annexes neighbouring nations. And it is the Russian government that seeks to undermine free democratic elections in other countries (not only the U.S.).

Putin is not a friend of western democracy.
The obsession of him is definitely driving some people to oust our own President. If the Russians helped Trump they sure got the short end of the stick.
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
This has nothing to do with what we're discussing so please stick to the topic instead of deflecting.
ROTFL........you asked why Don Jr and Kushner lied, and the list I gave were liars as well. Maybe you just see one side to all of this. In that case.........the topic is mute.

Maybe you should ask "why do conservatives lie and liberals don't". Start a thread on it.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
ROTFL........you asked why Don Jr and Kushner lied, and the list I gave were liars as well. Maybe you just see one side to all of this. In that case.........the topic is mute.

Maybe you should ask "why do conservatives lie and liberals don't". Start a thread on it.
I never said not implied that liberals don't lie, but you sure do. Secondly, one shouldn't defend whom they may support by saying things like "Johnny did it too!".

But not to get lost in the weeds, and that simply is that if there was nothing wrong with them meeting with the Russians then why did they lie about it? To say that others do it doesn't even get close to answering the question.
 

Shushersbedamned

Well-Known Member
I never said not implied that liberals don't lie, but you sure do. Secondly, one shouldn't defend whom they may support by saying things like "Johnny did it too!".

But not to get lost in the weeds, and that simply is that if there was nothing wrong with them meeting with the Russians then why did they lie about it? To say that others do it doesn't even get close to answering the question.
They lied because they wanted to make perfectly clear that something is wrong. The American government is infected.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I see America's #1 enemy as the internal groups of people in the country trying to degrade and remove a President elected by the people by a sound electoral process.

If all Russians are bad does that mean all Mexicans are bad, or all Blacks?

You suffer from TDS. As well as Russophobia.
Ah, so you bought the Trump/Fox News talking points.

Propaganda does work.
 

Shushersbedamned

Well-Known Member
Mass conspiracy theory to take out the President since even before he was elected is the one that makes the most sense to you?
There is definitely conspiracies to get rid of Trump - by any means at our disposal. But it isn't very secret. It's the ones supporting him that are always whispering in the dark.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Well heres the source President Trump says he can pardon himself. We asked 15 experts if that's legal.

This is an odd weird thing for him to say considering it goes against everything every Trump supporter has been saying up here. Apparently Trump disagree with all you supporters of him.

I keep hearing from yal; "what has he done he hasn't done anything,its all bs fake news were crazy Trump has nothing to hide 10 thousand different ways what the heck?

What does he have to pardon himself from, apparently hes done something against the law despite you guys ramblings about him hes saying he broke the law. So what does he want to pardon himself from?

He might need that power someday.......
 
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