Trump Wins In 2024. Pick His Inauguration Music.

[Stevicus]

thomas edison, elon musk, steve jobs, warren buffet, and bill gates. Now name me 5 lawyers who are as prominent in american pop culture's collective consciousness as these men. Hell, j. P. Morgan was so influencial we passed laws specifically to keep his power in check

Well, there was Vincent Bugliosi, who was the lawyer in the Charles Manson case. There are some judges who have gained fame and influence. People tend to remember presidents, as well as military generals. Oftentimes pop stars, sports celebrities can be remembered because the spotlight is shining on them anyway.

 

[Soandso]

Well, there was Vincent Bugliosi, who was the lawyer in the Charles Manson case. There are some judges who have gained fame and influence. People tend to remember presidents, as well as military generals. Oftentimes pop stars, sports celebrities can be remembered because the spotlight is shining on them anyway.

True, but can you name me one other country that idolizes business moguls like the usa does? I can't think of any

 

[Father Heathen]

I am not sure he is smart. He does not come across that way.

He's an oaf devoid of decorum and self awareness, yet if he started tossing his own feces his supporters would claim that he's "playing 4D chess."

 

[Father Heathen]

Trump is smart.He stands a very good chance of winning.He has support not only of Western but Eastern Businessmen.The latter want no arms sent from USA to support Ukraine.They also want to loot Ukranian business.The Eastern businessmen and Politicians will register the stolen assets off shore .This will buy them goodies and fund politicians they want in power.

If he's smart then he's done a stellar job of hiding it. The American people tossed him out last election, and I doubt that the country's perception of dumpster fires has mysteriously became favorable since then.

 

[Valjean]

The appropriate music seems obvious:

 

[Exaltist Ethan]

 

[Revoltingest]

True, but can you name me one other country that idolizes business moguls like the usa does? I can't think of any

Some in USA do, many others demonize them.

 

[We Never Know]

With his ego, it has to be this one lol

 

[Stevicus]

True, but can you name me one other country that idolizes business moguls like the usa does? I can't think of any

I don't know that the US public really idolizes business moguls just for being business moguls; it would mainly depend on other factors, many of which are intangible. People might know who they are, as their names might be in the news a lot, but notoriety doesn't necessarily mean idolizing. On the other hand, a lot of people may not know that much about them in general, especially those who seemingly prefer to remain in the background and unnoticed.

 

[F1fan]

I don't thin k the music will be heard over all the citizens shooting their AR15's in the air, much like the Taliban. How many will be injured and die in falling bullets? The right doesn't care. To the right dying unnaturally due to gunfire is a noble death.

 

[Soandso]

I don't know that the US public really idolizes business moguls just for being business moguls; it would mainly depend on other factors, many of which are intangible. People might know who they are, as their names might be in the news a lot, but notoriety doesn't necessarily mean idolizing. On the other hand, a lot of people may not know that much about them in general, especially those who seemingly prefer to remain in the background and unnoticed.

So you're telling me americans don't idolize men like elon musk or steve jobs? Ehhh...

Even Trump has been idolized for his history as a business man. It made him president There are literally sects of christianity that hold him asa kind of prophet like king david, or as some kind of savior/messiah figure

 

[Stevicus]

So you're telling me americans don't idolize men like elon musk or steve jobs? Ehhh...

Even Trump has been idolized for his history as a business man. It made him president There are literally sects of christianity that hold him asa kind of prophet like king david, or as some kind of savior/messiah figure

They idolize those who are brought to their attention as major figures. But is "idolize" really the word to use here? Would teenagers put up posters of Elon Musk or Donald Trump in their rooms? Probably not. In today's society, people might envy them, or at least envy their wealth, as so many struggle to keep up with the Kardashians. There's another family of moguls who are well-known, and maybe even some people idolize them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh come on! It is obvious. And Trump would love the title. Lastly please note the name of the conductor:

 

[Zwing]

In America, we like to equate wealth with intelligence, and business moguls are our national heroes

There is something in what you say, but I don’t think “heroes” is the right term. I don’t think we have heroes in America. Think that the legally endorsed/enforced presumption of equality coupled with our innate individualism retards the ability of most Americans to think of anybody else as a “hero”. The one exception to this is that occasionally cops, firefighters and other first responders will be idolized as being heroes (particularly when they die in the line of duty), but that is a temporary insanity which we soon recover from.

 

[We Never Know]

They idolize those who are brought to their attention as major figures. But is "idolize" really the word to use here? Would teenagers put up posters of Elon Musk or Donald Trump in their rooms? Probably not. In today's society, people might envy them, or at least envy their wealth, as so many struggle to keep up with the Kardashians. There's another family of moguls who are well-known, and maybe even some people idolize them.

Idolize may not me a bad choice of word.
People idolize movie stars, sports figures, etc. as well

 

[Zwing]

Have you not noticed that I'm a strong gun rights advocate?

I am not, particularly. What I mean is, while I do not advocate for the right of private citizens to own firearms, I do support it. This, despite acknowledgement of the necessarily attending cost (that mass shootings will inevitably continue to occur). Even though I am ex-military (if one thinks that has any bearing), I currently own no firearms myself; since I don’t hunt and have not perceived any immediate personal need, I have never done so. I can discern what I have previously alluded to as the only defensible motivation to want to keep firearms, in view of the aforementioned cost.

 

[Valjean]

There is something in what you say, but I don’t think “heroes” is the right term. I don’t think we have heroes in America. Think that the legally endorsed/enforced presumption of equality coupled with our innate individualism retards the ability of most Americans to think of anybody else as a “hero”. The one exception to this is that occasionally cops, firefighters and other first responders will be idolized as being heroes (particularly when they die in the line of duty), but that is a temporary insanity which we soon recover from.

Here in the states, it seems to be entertainers, sports figures and the military that we lionize.

 

[Zwing]

…it seems to be entertainers, sports figures and the military that we lionize.

Perhaps soldiers in time of war, but that falls into the same category as first responders: there is gratitude that “that one’s life” was sacrificed in lieu of “my life”, and even that sentiment is quickly forgotten. As far as sportsmen and entertainers go, it is true among certain segments of the population, but not generally.

 

[Soandso]

There is something in what you say, but I don’t think “heroes” is the right term. I don’t think we have heroes in America. Think that the legally endorsed/enforced presumption of equality coupled with our innate individualism retards the ability of most Americans to think of anybody else as a “hero”. The one exception to this is that occasionally cops, firefighters and other first responders will be idolized as being heroes (particularly when they die in the line of duty), but that is a temporary insanity which we soon recover from.

True, but will cops and firefighters take man to mars? I hear things like that about musk all the time. "Real life tony stark." Same with other business moguls like thomas edison. Sure, people in current times recognize him for the thief he was, but when i was a child i learned about him as one of the main men who drove progress into what we have today

 

[Soandso]

They idolize those who are brought to their attention as major figures. But is "idolize" really the word to use here? Would teenagers put up posters of Elon Musk or Donald Trump in their rooms? Probably not.

Yah, probably not, but their image isn't trying to appeal to teenagers. I think you may be confusing the term "idols" with "teen idols."

In today's society, people might envy them, or at least envy their wealth, as so many struggle to keep up with the Kardashians. There's another family of moguls who are well-known, and maybe even some people idolize them.

And right here you hit the nail on the head