Trump's alleged violent tendencies -- Arizona investigates Trump remark about shooting her.

[Estro Felino]

I think what Trump was trying to say (which is a miracle if he says anything close to being coherent, and a complete sentence) is that "warhawks" never are in combat, and if they were that they would have a different attitude about war. Of course he's a guy who faked a disability to avoid being drafted for military service, which is what is normally called a coward. An entitled coward, to be fair.

So I don't think Trump's comment was technically a threat, but it is consistent with his usual violent rhetoric. For a guy who is supposedly anti-war he isn't anti-violence. Remember, he sat and watched the Jan 6 rioted enfold and expand for nearly three hours before he sent a message for them to stop. It's as if he was waiting to see if the mob succeded before he told them to surrender.

So it depnds if the law includes a hypothetical of certain death as meaning a threat. Trump's comment was sloppy and poorly framed, but what else can we expect from an old man suffering from early dementia?

He just exposed hypocrisy.

 

[Estro Felino]

He didn't say execute her. He said her, with a gun. facing nine guns. It was supposed to be a combat reference, like the old hippy "If the politicians fought wars we'd have peace in no time, man, now pass me that bong" crap. Idiotic, but not a threat.

Something like: when those elitist criminals in the sixties sent all those men against the Vietcongs...someone needed to say: they need to go there to try what it feels like, instead of remaining home and expecting commoners to die for a stupid cause.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Those who want Ukrainians to fight an endless war against the czar should go fight themselves, instead of ordering people to fight from the coziness of their own house.

Which people were ordering which people according to what source?

 

[Estro Felino]

Which people were ordering which people according to what source?

All those who want to spend billions of dollars on weapons to give to Ukrainians, so they fight this proxy war against the Czar.

 

[F1fan]

He just exposed hypocrisy.

You're correct, he exposed Trump's hypocrisy.

All those who want to spend billions of dollars on weapons to give to Ukrainians, so they fight this proxy war against the Czar.

And yet nothing about the billions putin spends to invade a sovereign nation. Hypocrisy seems to be spreading.

 

[Estro Felino]

I think what Trump was trying to say (which is a miracle if he says anything close to being coherent, and a complete sentence) is that "warhawks" never are in combat, and if they were that they would have a different attitude about war. Of course he's a guy who faked a disability to avoid being drafted for military service, which is what is normally called a coward. An entitled coward, to be fair.

We are speaking of the Vietnam War period, right?

The cowards and the criminals are those who sent thousands of American soldiers to die in that stupid and idiotic war.
MacNamara...right?

Why didn't MacNamara go to Vietnam to fight himself? Because he is a warmonger and a coward. A vile person.

 

[anna.]

It was a typically mean, artless, and irresponsibly bit of MAGA hyperbole that represented, not a call to violence, but the raving of a sick and fearful narcissist. It was disgusting, but hardly cause for investigation.

Meanwhile, let's all hope that no MAGA nut-case interprets the rant as a good idea.

The Narcissist's Prayer​

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

That's what I have always said on this forum.

Those who want Ukrainians to fight an endless war against the czar should go fight themselves, instead of ordering people to fight from the coziness of their own house.

You very clearly desire Putin to simply take some part, or perhaps all of Ukraine. Do you have any other countries you'd like to deliver over to him? One or two you don't like, perhaps?

 

[Estro Felino]

You very clearly desire Putin to simply take some part, or perhaps all of Ukraine. Do you have any other countries you'd like to deliver over to him? One or two you don't like, perhaps?

If you think it is a just cause...quit Canada and go to Ukraine to fight against Russia.

 

[Wandering Monk]

You very clearly desire Putin to simply take some part, or perhaps all of Ukraine. Do you have any other countries you'd like to deliver over to him? One or two you don't like, perhaps?

Moldova is next on Putin's list.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

If you think it is a just cause...quit Canada and go to Ukraine to fight against Russia.

Seriously?

 

[Estro Felino]

Moldova is next on Putin's list.

Moldova is going to join the EU soon.
And once it joins the EU, we Europeans will chase away all warmongers from the country.
We will kick them out.

Because I already know they plan to turn this country into an anti-Russian stronghold. They will not be able to do it.
Warmongering is against the EU law.

 

[F1fan]

We are speaking of the Vietnam War period, right?

Yes, the war that Trump got a fake deferment because he’s an entitled coward.

The cowards and the criminals are those who sent thousands of American soldiers to die in that stupid and idiotic war.
MacNamara...right?

Yes, political actors.

Why didn't MacNamara go to Vietnam to fight himself? Because he is a warmonger and a coward. A vile person.

Much like Trump. He allowed the Afghanistan War to linger on while he was president and never fought himself. I will wait for your condemnation of him.

Same with Putin. He invaded Ukraine and cowardly sends Russian citizens to their deaths. I wait for your condemnation.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yes, the war that Trump got a fake deferment because he’s an entitled coward.

Yes, political actors.

Much like Trump. He allowed the Afghanistan War to linger on while he was president and never fought himself. I will wait for your condemnation of him.

Same with Putin. He invaded Ukraine and cowardly sends Russian citizens to their deaths. I wait for your condemnation.

I won't play this game. I am sorry.

That is... wars are holy and just only if it's the Dems who start them.

 

[McBell]

Since in my view you didn't quote anything from your citation allow me to help you;

'The imperative mood is a grammatical mood that forms a command or request.

The imperative mood is used to demand or require that an action be performed.'

Source: Imperative mood - Wikipedia

They should probably stop "helping" Trump...

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

If you think it is a just cause...quit Canada and go to Ukraine to fight against Russia.

Why, how very sweet and kind of you. I'm only 76, after all, with a surgically repaired spine and hip that makes walking nearly impossible. Are you so sweet to everybody?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I won't play this game. I am sorry.

Of course you won't play. You were just beaten by @F1fan.

 

[Estro Felino]

Why, how very sweet and kind of you. I'm only 76, after all, with a surgically repaired spine and hip that makes walking nearly impossible.

My point is that there is no voluntary system there.
If they were volunteers, I would be ok with that,

They are forced to fight under the threat of desertion charges.

 

[F1fan]

Moldova is going to join the EU soon.
And once it joins the EU, we Europeans will chase away all warmongers from the country.
We will kick them out.

So you will join the fight against putin's aggression?

Because I already know they plan to turn this country into an anti-Russian stronghold. They will not be able to do it.
Warmongering is against the EU law.

This is why the EU opposes putin.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Meanwhile, let's all hope that no MAGA nut-case interprets the rant as a good idea.

Trump has enough extremists already threatening, attempting and doing violence that it's not just Hell but also America where Dante's advice to abandon all of it is increasingly applicable.
Aftetall, they already tried to abduct a governor and Trump has support of these so-called militias, extremists and terrorists he told to "stand by."
But it's gotten to normalized people are dismissing Trump's statement and denying that indeed it is aggressive and violent. Even the thread OP calls it alleged violent tendencies when the evidence is clear, he didn't explicitly call for violence as he had in the past or offer to pay legal fees, but the violence and aggression in the statement are clear.