Trump's Conviction and the 6th Amendment.

[Pogo]

Abide? How do you abide by what a jury decides in a case that doesn't involve you?

By acknowledging and following the precedents set by courts as is their function, you seem really unfamiliar with our judicial system.

 

[Laniakea]

By acknowledging and following the precedents set by courts as is their function, you seem really unfamiliar with our judicial system.

Don't forget there's an appeal process, which means the final word hasn't been spoken on the case yet.

 

[Kathryn]

Here's the poem:
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. If turnips were watches, I'd wear one by my side. If "ifs" and "ands" were pots and pans, There'd be no work for tinkers' hands.

There are also different versions: If wishes were horses, beggars would ride - Wikipedia.

So you say. I would bet there are various versions. For instance, I never ever heard the part about ifs and ands.

 

[fantome profane]

Um...
A turnip or a watch?

What's the difference?

 

[Laniakea]

So you say. I would bet there are various versions. For instance, I never ever heard the part about ifs and ands.

Correct. Click the Wikipedia link in my post. (I added that just prior to your reply)

 

[McBell]

Ask the person who made up that poem. But I think it means that if turnips were watches, I'd have a watch by my side.

Thank you for the clarification.

 

[Pogo]

Here's the poem:
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. If turnips were watches, I'd wear one by my side. If "ifs" and "ands" were pots and pans, There'd be no work for tinkers' hands.

There are also different versions: If wishes were horses, beggars would ride - Wikipedia.

Swords I can understand, but watches or these days alarm clocks?

 

[McBell]

What's the difference?

If I knew, I would not have asked....

 

[Pogo]

Yes, I know that. It's one of the many oddities that is unique about the legal system in New York. It's not that it threw me so much as the fact that most people outside of New York don't know that the "Court of Appeals" corresponds to the "Supreme Court" in most other states. Calling the Court of Appeals an "appellate court" therefore leaves people outside of New York with the impression that Trump can further delay proceedings with an appeal to the New York State Supreme Court.

Trump could still try to get his friends on the Supreme Court to help him, and I think they would jump at a chance to do that. So they will probably try to use some excuse to get it up there, just like they did manage to get the goofy "absolute immunity of Presidents" defense. That effectively sidelined Trump's criminal trial for federal election interference, because the Supreme Court has sat on a decision for so long that it will likely have to wait until after the election.

I'm not sure that Trump will need to do an end run around New York state via the Supreme Court, because he may not get any prison time at all for the felonies he was convicted of. My guess is that he is likely to get probation and some other restrictions or fines. So, if he wins, he will break another record--the first serving US president who is a convicted felon.

He will appeal it anyhow cause it costs him nothing as his base pays for it and it is worth the publicity value in the there is no bad publicity sense he is so good at abusing.

 

[Laniakea]

He will appeal it anyhow cause it costs him nothing as his base pays for it and it is worth the publicity value in the there is no bad publicity sense he is so good at abusing.

That made no sense.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Not true, the court transcripts have not only been released tot he public, they have been linked to numerous times right here on RF...

Yes true. It remains third party sourcing.

Learn to recognize the difference.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That made no sense.

Rarely does. I'd dismiss it as non cognitive rambling.

 

[McBell]

Yes true. It remains third party sourcing.

Learn to recognize the difference.

Please be so kind as to reveal to me how the court releasing the transcript is "third party sourcing".

 

[Twilight Hue]

If turnips were watches I'd have one by my side.

And with Pondo on the turnip truck, we ride!

 

[F1fan]

Now you are making the case that he was incompetent to stand trial.

Funny I never said any such thing. But Trump is disturbed, and unfit for office.

I think he knows he's corrupt. He's just used to getting away with it, and lying about it.

Not a good look after you just got through laying out how you believe all the facts of the case fit together.

It's not a good look, and I can't understand why so many conservatives still support this criminal nutcase. If Trump wins (but losing the popular vote for the third time) it will be a huge regret for many who voted for him. Many already regrt voting for him, but there seems to be enough who will regret it later.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Please be so kind as to reveal to me how the court releasing the transcript is "third party sourcing".

Did the court itself send you the transcript directly?

Keep learning to tell the difference.

 

[F1fan]

You're right, he's not all that bad.
Trump 2024!

Are you an old Soviet Russian? Like putin?

 

[Kathryn]

Clearly there are many versions of that poem, so there you have it. I mean, even Wikipedia agrees!

 

[Laniakea]

Funny I never said any such thing. But Trump is disturbed, and unfit for office.

I think he knows he's corrupt. He's just used to getting away with it, and lying about it.

It's not a good look, and I can't understand why so many conservatives still support this criminal nutcase. If Trump wins (but losing the popular vote for the third time) it will be a huge regret for many who voted for him. Many already regrt voting for him, but there seems to be enough who will regret it later.

Many are clearly regretting not supporting him in the first place, as evidenced by all the new support he's been getting ever since the verdict.
He's like Obi Wan Kenobi. Strike him down and he becomes more powerful.

 

[Laniakea]

Are you an old Soviet Russian? Like putin?

Trump forever! 2024 and beyond!!!