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Trumps is thinking about firing Rod Rosenstien

Riders

Well-Known Member
I read that today and he ,maybe thinking of firing Mueller.I read yesterday that if he does fire these people Republicans will turn on him and impepach . Any thoughts?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
From a political standpoint, the smartest thing the Republicans could do might just be to impeach Trump, convict him, and remove him from office. That would put Pence in his place, who is a much tougher opponent for the Democrats than Trump ever could be.
 

Woberts

The Perfumed Seneschal
From a political standpoint, the smartest thing the Republicans could do might just be to impeach Trump, convict him, and remove him from office. That would put Pence in his place, who is a much tougher opponent for the Democrats than Trump ever could be.
Pence = (Trump)^3
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
After all has been said and done I'm surprised the word impeachment has even brought up but yes there's a threat to impeach if he fires Mueller. I'm surprised to even hear the word.After alls been said I have been hearing how there will be nothing found to impeach him with this is the one thing that could impeach him a part of me hopes he fires Mueller.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
After all has been said and done I'm surprised the word impeachment has even brought up but yes there's a threat to impeach if he fires Mueller. I'm surprised to even hear the word.After alls been said I have been hearing how there will be nothing found to impeach him with this is the one thing that could impeach him a part of me hopes he fires Mueller.

You do realize that it's within his power to legally fire Mueller? How do you think this would be an impeachable action? What Congressman would risk his career with such a foolish move? Maybe the haters would be better served if they would try to find legitimate ways to gain the presidency instead of these nonsensical impeachment fantasies.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
You do realize that it's within his power to legally fire Mueller? How do you think this would be an impeachable action? What Congressman would risk his career with such a foolish move? Maybe the haters would be better served if they would try to find legitimate ways to gain the presidency instead of these nonsensical impeachment fantasies.


No your wrong you need to get updated on the news. They just passed a bill to protect Mueller so now its against the law to fired him. They the house has told him if he fires him hes breaking the law because it would mean that he is guilty and is firing him to keep him from finding the truth or in other words its obstruction. They did tell him they would impeach for obstruction. Its against the law sorry. If he were able too he would have already hes not allowed to no. Theres a bill being passed saying he cant.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
You do realize that it's within his power to legally fire Mueller? How do you think this would be an impeachable action? What Congressman would risk his career with such a foolish move? Maybe the haters would be better served if they would try to find legitimate ways to gain the presidency instead of these nonsensical impeachment fantasies.
According to experts not people posting on the internet, he can't. He can fire Rosenstien and put someone in his place who will do the deed, but not directly legally.

I suspect he will and some Republicans will cluck a bit unhappily and do nothing.

This is totally why we absolutely need a blue tsunami this November to rescue America from the forces of darkness that control it now.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I read that today and he ,maybe thinking of firing Mueller.I read yesterday that if he does fire these people Republicans will turn on him and impepach . Any thoughts?

Isn't that what you want?
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
No your wrong you need to get updated on the news. They just passed a bill to protect Mueller so now its against the law to fired him. They the house has told him if he fires him hes breaking the law because it would mean that he is guilty and is firing him to keep him from finding the truth or in other words its obstruction. They did tell him they would impeach for obstruction. Its against the law sorry. If he were able too he would have already hes not allowed to no. Theres a bill being passed saying he cant.

I looked that up and saw that it might get to the Senate floor but I doubt the House would do anything. Bipartisan Senate bill to protect Mueller set to advance
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
According to experts not people posting on the internet, he can't. He can fire Rosenstien and put someone in his place who will do the deed, but not directly legally.

I suspect he will and some Republicans will cluck a bit unhappily and do nothing.

This is totally why we absolutely need a blue tsunami this November to rescue America from the forces of darkness that control it now.


Rosenstien is different what exactly does he due? But to fire mueller is obstruction,. What and how would it help him to fire Resenstien anyways?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I read that today and he ,maybe thinking of firing Mueller.I read yesterday that if he does fire these people Republicans will turn on him and impepach . Any thoughts?

It is a bad idea in general

No your wrong you need to get updated on the news. They just passed a bill to protect Mueller so now its against the law to fired him. They the house has told him if he fires him hes breaking the law because it would mean that he is guilty and is firing him to keep him from finding the truth or in other words its obstruction. They did tell him they would impeach for obstruction. Its against the law sorry. If he were able too he would have already hes not allowed to no. Theres a bill being passed saying he cant.

POTUS can veto the bill then fire Mueller.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Okay read up on Rosenstien and Trumps ability to fire Mueller. Rosenstien is the deputy Attorney General involved in the raid. Only Rosenstien can fire Mueller. But Trump can but it would start a fight legal fight possible impeachment so he wont.

But if he fires Rosenstien he could hire someone who is more likely to fire Mueller so there youd have firing of Mueller. My thinking is if he does that it could still be considered obstruction but well see if he fire Rosenstien.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Officially I read more too. The guy who warned Trump was a lawyer who was pro Trump with him on the campaign trail I forgot the name. Tuesday night he had dinner with him not sure if it was last night or Tuesday before but he told him don't fire Mueller, you'll either be looking at Impeachment or a serious legal battle.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
If they veto the bill its still obstruction to fire Mueller.

Nope. POTUS can veto any bill by the fact of the position and it's authority. Also POTUS could claim Congress overreach by limiting the power of the POTUS via legislation rather than convention or constitutional modification. A case of obstruction can be made in court but it is no defacto obstruction merely because people claim it is.
 
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Riders

Well-Known Member
Well the Lawyer who warned him against firing Mueller is one who was on his campaign team. Don't you think hed be fired by now if Trump could? Forget the bill firing him is obstruction.He wouldve fired him already if he wanted too anyways.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
But he can fire Rosenstien well see. If he fires Rosenstien he can hire someone who will be able to fire Mueller but well see what happens.
 
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