Cheney does seem to know quite a bit about what happened and who was involved in Congress. I can't b believe there are still people who support trump at this point.
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Trump's New Spin On ‘We Fight Like Hell’ Speech On Jan. 6
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You sound like a boy who is pissed off because a girl broke up with you for lying to her.
The question is: why don't conservatives today value ethics? Why is cheating and lying acceptable?
What is common is legislators fighting for the American citizen.
What isn't common is a losing president fighting against the will of the voters.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
Perhaps we ought to just stop throwing stones from glasshouses with regards to certain silly notions about how the world works, but I suppose that's just me.
Case in point.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Are you sure? I wouldn't put it past a modern Democrat to suggest such a thing.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Maybe because the other side of the isle does the same thing? Food for thought.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's not even close to a coup attempt. That's purely a modern Democrat invention.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
I remember a time when values and ethics mattered to conservatives, or at least the ones I know personally. Sadly, those days are long gone, even for most of the conservatives I know, who jumped on the Trump train. These devout Christians used to care if the president lied to the American people or if the president was an adulterous womanizer or if the president said something or did something clearly controversial. They obviously stopped caring about the personal character of the president when Donald Trump was in the White House. Miraculously, the personal character of the president became immensely important to them again when Joe Biden, a Democrat, began his campaign for the presidency. They've been especially bent out of shape about President Biden's personal character since he was inaugurated on January 20, 2020. In fact, several of them became unhinged, and angrily insisted that America was going to hell in a hand basket, because Joe Biden, a Democrat, was clearly not of God. And this was in spite of their perpetual insistence for five long years that God chooses our nation's leaders, and God chose and ordained Trump.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
JFK was a rampant womanizer far worse than Trump with multiple affairs under his belt.
Clinton smoked cigars. Ahem.... "I did not have....
Might want to revisit past ethics in the annals of history before you proceed further and get embarrassed about such oversights when critiquing the right.
But granted, the office of president back in the day carried a distinction that is now long gone from the modern public eye.
Sgt. Pepper
All you need is love.
Let me correct an apparent misunderstanding here, Twilight Hue. I'm not the one who is embarrassed, nor will I be embarrassed by discussing the moral inconsistent squabbles of the conservative Christians I personally know. They are the ones who deliberately turn a blind eye to the blatant immoral behavior of Donald Trump, and they have done so since he was campaigning for the first time in 2015. They are the ones who used to spout off morally indignant rants about Bill Clinton's adultery and sex scandals, but they excuse Trump's immoral behavior by insisting that his sins are between him and God, and Christians shouldn't judge him.
They stubbornly overlooked Trump's perpetual adultery and didn't bat an eyelash when the news broke that he paid off his porn star and playboy bunny mistresses while he was campaigning for the presidency in 2015. They didn't bat an eyelash when they found out that he once vulgarly bragged about how he could get away with groping women because he's a celebrity, or when he once bragged about how he would watch semi-naked and naked teenage girls backstage of a beauty pageant. Furthermore, they don't complain about the profanity he uses or when he took God's name in vain or when he mocks and disparages other people.
I can guarantee that these Christian conservatives never turned a blind eye to Bill Clinton's immoral behavior. They never would have turned a blind eye if Barack Obama had behaved exactly how Donald Trump behaved while he was in office, either. And now today, none of these Christian conservatives turn a blind eye to Joe Biden. They consistently point out his flaws, and they point out anything he says or does that is questionable and controversial. It is clear, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they are nothing more than blatant hypocrites in this regard. I've tried to point out their moral inconsistency, but none of them want to hear it. They either immediately deflect to Joe Biden and to other Democrats or they outright ignore me, and sometimes they even block me.
I hope I've cleared up any misunderstanding before I proceed forward with critiquing the Christian conservatives I personally know, and the few I've interacted with online, because these conservatives aren't morally consistent in equally judging Donald Trump (and other Republicans) as they are more than willing to cast stones at Joe Biden and other Democrats for their personal sins. As the old adage says, "Those who live in glasshouses should not throw stones." I've often told these Christians that if they're going to judge Democrats for their immoral behavior, then they should equally judge Republicans for their immoral behavior, as I do. Of course, my suggestion of being morally consistent goes in one ear and out the other with these particular Christian conservatives.
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Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
Perhaps you should stop treating the term "Democrat" as a synonym for "Satanic Demon Lord of Hell".
I see his lack of calling for the riot/insurrection to end
is more damning than calls to "fight". The latter is
common rhetorical speech. But one the violence started,
he clearly offered tacit approval when he failed to decry
something on his behalf that was so obviously evil.
Is "evil" too strong?
Nah.
That's only a tool for the goal of power.
(This is not merely opinion. If's fact. I said so.)
There is a big difference between saying something like this before an election and saying it after.
Like a coach giving a pep talk to his team before the game, and a coach in the locker room after a loss the telling his players to start a fight in the parking lot,
Take a look at how Obama dealt with it when Trump won in 2016.
Obama didn’t say fight or you won’t have a country anymore.
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See above post #34
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The thing about modern politics is there is no beginning and end to the elections any more.
Campaign mode is now perpetual to these people. It's all they ever think about.
There needs to be serious reform. Less money. Shorter campaign timelines. More access to voting, not less.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
Do you dislike that, or enjoy it?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It would be nice to put down the election toys and focus on ones job description.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
Was it your job to create all those threads on Harris and AOC then?