Trump's New Spin On ‘We Fight Like Hell’ Speech On Jan. 6

[Twilight Hue]

Was it your job to create all those threads on Harris and AOC then?

I call it as I see it.

For example,
It would also be nice to see people who actually know what they are talking about rather than pretending they are well informed on the matter.

Pumping electricity. ... ??? Uh...OK.

 

[Wildswanderer]

He never encouraged anyone to riot. I really don't think the left has anything on him and it makes them angry that he's the Teflon man.
And if that was supposed to be a takeover it was the most unorganized one in history.

 

[Kooky]

I call it as I see it.

Just like all the other people ceasesly toiling in constant campaign mode to bring their preferred party victory, or at the very least see the enemy party taste ignoble defeat.

For example,

Yes, I can see that. Constant campaign mode. No off days.

 

[Twilight Hue]

He never encouraged anyone to riot. I really don't think the left has anything on him and it makes them angry that he's the Teflon man.
And if that was supposed to be a takeover it was the most unorganized one in history.

Exactly. But let them whine and wail about it all they want to their hearts content.

All the better.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

He never encouraged anyone to riot. I really don't think the left has anything on him and it makes them angry that he's the Teflon man.

Why would you say the people rioted?

And if that was supposed to be a takeover it was the most unorganized one in history.

I mean, yeah...it was Trump.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Do you think he habitually lies on purpose or is lying so natural for him that he doesn't think before he speaks?

I think he says what his base will believe. We have no idea what he really believes. Of course, that's probably the case for many politicians.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Do you think he has the courage to risk losing again?

He has the ego.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Trump 2024

Because Covid's not enough.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Why would you say the people rioted?

Because given the opportunity a certain percentage of the population will commit lawless acts. We saw this all last year. Suddenly when it's 400 Trump supporters it's an insurrection. When it was thosands of BLM, it was peaceful protests.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Because given the opportunity a certain percentage of the population will commit lawless acts. We saw this all last year. Suddenly when it's 400 Trump supporters it's an insurrection. When it was thosands of BLM, it was peaceful protests.

There are reasons behind it, though. What inspired them? 400 people don't just storm the Capitol just to commit lawless acts.

They were, in fact, pretty clear about their purpose. And that points directly to the person whose flag they were flying.

 

[Wildswanderer]

There are reasons behind it, though. What inspired them? 400 people don't just storm the Capitol just to commit lawless acts.

They were, in fact, pretty clear about their purpose. And that points directly to the person whose flag they were flying.

Uh huh. And people commit murder in God's name, too. That doesn't say anything about what God wants.
Not that I'm equating Trump with God, but I don't believe he wanted violence in his name.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Uh huh. And people commit murder in God's name, too. That doesn't say anything about what God wants.
Not that I'm equating Trump with God, but I don't believe he wanted violence in his name.

I'm not sure; his milquetoast response to it suggests otherwise.

Regardless, it occurred due to his continual false claims of election fraud and suggestions that their country was being taken from them. Combine that with the combative language used by both him and his crew (figures of speech notwithstanding; context matters) and his doomsday predictions about what would happen if Biden won and it's completely ridiculous to suggest they weren't encouraged by Trump.

They were pretty vocal about who inspired them.

 

[Kooky]

Uh huh. And people commit murder in God's name, too. That doesn't say anything about what God wants.
Not that I'm equating Trump with God, but I don't believe he wanted violence in his name.

Karl Marx never wanted violence in his name. Therefore, there are no violent Marxists.

 

[F1fan]

Because given the opportunity a certain percentage of the population will commit lawless acts. We saw this all last year. Suddenly when it's 400 Trump supporters it's an insurrection. When it was thosands of BLM, it was peaceful protests.

Only 7% of those who caused trouble of the hundreds of thousands of people who were marching for civil rights. That means 93% protested peacefully. And as reports came out over time there were many cases of white supremacists who created and participated in riots and violence.

I notice you conservative won't mention that 93% protested and marched peacefully, and that's because you don't want black and white people marching for civil rights are decent people people.

Contrast that to all the people at the Jan 6 event who believed disinformation, mostly from trump, that there was election fraud and there had to be a protest against our election. Who among those people were decent and sane? That a large percentage, over 600 now identified and charges filed, broke into the Capitol seems smaller in proportion to the civil rights marches, well good. It's good that more citizens marched for civil rights than held a riot and attacked the USA.

Which side do you want to be on? Civil rights, or anti-democracy?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Contrast that to all the people at the Jan 6 event who believed disinformation, mostly from trump, that there was election fraud and there had to be a protest against our election. Who among those people were decent and sane?

The thosands who were there and didn't commit any violence were decent.
And they were not altogether wrong about the election being stolen but that's another topic.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

He never encouraged anyone to riot. I really don't think the left has anything on him and it makes them angry that he's the Teflon man.
And if that was supposed to be a takeover it was the most unorganized one in history.

That's for the January 6 committee to decide, after they've elevated all the evidence and listened to the witness depositions. Trump certainly isn't behaving like an innocent man, with nothing to hide. He has tried his best to prevent the January 6 committee from examining his presidential records. If he didn't do anything wrong on Jan. 6, then why fight to hide his official executive records? It only makes him look more suspicious and guilty. He even tried to invoke executive privilege to prevent the release of his records, which was rejected by President Biden. All of his legal efforts to shield his presidential records and tax returns casts a shadow of doubt over his alleged innocence. He's acting like a guilty man who knows his days are numbered. If I were to guess a wager, I'd say he knows he's done something illegal that will incriminate him, and he's doing whatever he can to keep himself out of prison.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

{snip}Contrast that to all the people at the Jan 6 event who believed disinformation, mostly from trump, that there was election fraud and there had to be a protest against our election. Who among those people were decent and sane? That a large percentage, over 600 now identified and charges filed, broke into the Capitol seems smaller in proportion to the civil rights marches, well good. It's good that more citizens marched for civil rights than held a riot and attacked the USA.

Fortunately, hundreds of the insurrectionists have been arrested and federally charged (including charged with a felony), and many have already been sentenced to jail or prison. I'm confident that the FBI will catch up with the rest who haven't been arrested yet.

727 people have been charged in the Capitol insurrection so far. This searchable table shows them all.

151 rioters have pleaded guilty for their role in the Capitol insurrection so far. This table is tracking them all.

 

[F1fan]

The thosands who were there and didn't commit any violence were decent.

The 93%. Be sure to give them credit for marching for human rights.

And they were not altogether wrong about the election being stolen but that's another topic.

Those pesky voters stole the victory from trump. Republicans are trying to hinder these voters from voting again. Republicans think they are entitled to public office when it is the voters who decide.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Those pesky voters stole the victory from trump.

No, the social media giants did that by manipulation of information. Then after they even bragged about it.

 

[Wildswanderer]

The 93%. Be sure to give them credit for marching for human rights.

The 93 percent of Trump supporters that were law abiding? I agree.