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[tytlyf]

You just babbling or do you have absolute truth in what you are saying?


Didn't think so. sonny.

Yes, turn on the news sometime. I believe Trump and/or his associates have already clarified what I mentioned.

What is an 'arms race' to you? What does it mean reversing US policy to dwindle down nuclear #'s?

arms race
noun
noun: arms race; plural noun: arms races

1. a competition between nations for superiority in the development and accumulation of weapons, especially between the US and the former Soviet Union during the Cold War.

 

[esmith]

Yes, turn on the news sometime. I believe Trump and/or his associates have already clarified what I mentioned.

What is an 'arms race' to you? What does it mean reversing US policy to dwindle down nuclear #'s?

Guess you have been reading/listing to the wrong sources.
How about CNN? Will you accept their opinion? If so I think maybe you should provide source vice your "opinion" You did say "I believe"...that's an opinion sonny.
From: Trump, Putin both seek to boost their nuclear capability - CNNPolitics.com

President-elect Donald Trump signaled Thursday that he will look to "strengthen and expand" the US's nuclear capability hours after Russian President Vladimir Putin pledged to enhance his country's nuclear forces.
The exchange appeared to raise the prospect of a new arms race between the two nuclear superpowers, which between them boast more than 14,000 nuclear warheads, the still deadly legacy of their four-decades long Cold War standoff.
But the comments by Putin, who is presiding over a project to restore Russia's lost global power and influence, and Trump, who will shortly become the US commander-in-chief, did not spell out exactly what each side is proposing or whether a major change of nuclear doctrine is in the offing.
Trump weighed in with a tweet just hours after Putin spoke following a meeting with his military advisers to review the activity of the past year.
"The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes," Trump wrote.
On Friday, Putin downplayed the risk of a new nuclear arms race between Russia and the US and said there was "nothing new" in Trump's tweet.
"During his election campaign, (Trump) said US needs to bolster nuclear capabilities and armed forces in general and there is nothing new," Putin said at this annual news conference.
It was not immediately clear if the President-elect is proposing an entire new nuclear policy that he would begin to flesh out once he takes office next year.
Trump could also be referring to plans to modernize the current US nuclear arsenal that are currently underway and will cost hundreds of billions of dollars. The Obama administration has outlined a plan to modernize delivery systems, command and control systems and to refurbish warheads in the US nuclear triad -- the US force of sea, airborne and missile delivered nuclear weapons.

 

[tytlyf]

Guess you have been reading/listing to the wrong sources.
How about CNN? Will you accept their opinion? If so I think maybe you should provide source vice your "opinion" You did say "I believe"...that's an opinion sonny.
From: Trump, Putin both seek to boost their nuclear capability - CNNPolitics.com

Absolutely, CNN is a credible source. But that didn't address what I said. Trump has made comments more recently than the article in which he states he wants an arms race.

 

[esmith]

Absolutely, CNN is a credible source. But that didn't address what I said. Trump has made comments more recently than the article in which he states he wants an arms race.

An arms race does not necessarily indicate an increase of the number of the weapons, sonny

 

[Revoltingest]

An arms race does not necessarily indicate an increase of the number of the weapons, sonny

Delivery systems are a crucial component.

 

[tytlyf]

An arms race does not necessarily indicate an increase of the number of the weapons, sonny

Yes, it actually does. There are definitions and history to ponder over which describe exactly what an arms race is. This isn't new. Stop spinning gramps.

 

[esmith]

Yes, it actually does. There are definitions and history to ponder over which describe exactly what an arms race is. This isn't new. Stop spinning gramps.

Again, got facts to backup your statement youngster or are you just voicing your opinion?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I do believe he said "greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability". This does not necessarily mean increase the number of nuclear weapons. You can strengthen and expand a weapon, in this case nuclear weapons, by updating many aspect of the weapon, this includes but not limited to the delivery systems, and the weapon itself, and even to a enhanced anti-basaltic weapon system. However, I really don't know what he meant so I will wait and see.

That just reflects Trump's disattachment from reality, given America already, by leaps and bounds and without competition, has the worlds largest, strongest, and most well-funded military, and our nuclear capability still exceeds what is needed to wipe out entire continents and then some.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I warned y'all that Trump is dangerous.

And yet you voted for him? You sound like an alcoholic who guzzled gallon after gallon of whiskey, and then telling people "I warned you..." after something bad like cirrhosis of the liver has been discovered to be advanced.

 

[metis]

I would suggest that when Trump said he would "greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability", that this would also include the number of nukes. After all, that's what "expand" would logically mean in that context.

What I find so laughable is how so many of his gullible groupies decide to excuse what Trump actually said, instead believing what his spin-doctors say the next day on what Trump "actually said". Reminds me of all those days when we ran across such nonsense during the Reagan years.

 

[Revoltingest]

And yet you voted for him? You sound like an alcoholic who guzzled gallon after gallon of whiskey, and then telling people "I warned you..." after something bad like cirrhosis of the liver has been discovered to be advanced.

Your analogy is incomplete.
I have a better one.
Voting for Trump is like painfully losing a limb in order to avoid a gangrene infection.
One cannot properly evaluate the choice of amputation without considering the
alternative, ie, a festering death.

 

[esmith]

That just reflects Trump's disattachment from reality, given America already, by leaps and bounds and without competition, has the worlds largest, strongest, and most well-funded military, and our nuclear capability still exceeds what is needed to wipe out entire continents and then some.

Excuse me there but maybe you should do a little research before you blame only President-elect Trump's plans
Obama already set to spend $20B a year to update U.S. nukes
The US is Set to Spend $1 Trillion Upgrading Nuclear Weapons
Care to comment?

 

[Revoltingest]

I would suggest that when Trump said he would "greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability", that this would also include the number of nukes. After all, that's what "expand" would logically mean in that context.

That's a bad assumption. (<sigh>....anthropologists are so naive about weapon systems.)
While it is possible, there are other ways to strengthen nuclear capability.....
- Better delivery systems, eg, hypersonic missiles, stealthy missiles, spoofing systems
- More capable nukes, eg, better yield, better reliability, smaller
These things aren't necessarily safer with respect to the effect it will have on our foes though.
We don't know what Trump intends.
We don't know what Trump will do until it happens.
It's important to not make presumptions.

 

[esmith]

I would suggest that when Trump said he would "greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability", that this would also include the number of nukes. After all, that's what "expand" would logically mean in that context.

What I find so laughable is how so many of his gullible groupies decide to excuse what Trump actually said, instead believing what his spin-doctors say the next day on what Trump "actually said". Reminds me of all those days when we ran across such nonsense during the Reagan years.

No expand does not necessarily mean increase the number.

For instance. You know that I'm a firm advocate of self-protection by the use of a personal defense weapon. Now if I said I was going to strengthen and expand my defense weapons capability (not words I would use though), under your assumption that would mean I was going to by more weapons (not a bad idea though) wherein I might purchase an extended magazine for one of my weapons, or install a laser sight, or have the trigger worked on, or install different hand grips, there are many things that I can do to my firearms that expand their capability. So your assumption is possible wrong isn't it.
Still think I need another handgun though.

 

[tytlyf]

Again, got facts to backup your statement youngster or are you just voicing your opinion?

Yes, I already provided you the definition of "Arms Race." The only one spinning it is you.

LMGTFY

I'd be disappointed too if the guy I voted for is doing the opposite of what was promised.

For instance, Obama has kept more of his promises than breaking them. Not sure Trump has kept one of them. And he's not even sworn in yet.

 

[metis]

Yes, I already provided you the definition of "Arms Race." The only one spinning it is you. I'd be disappointed too if the guy I voted for is doing the opposite of what was promised.

For instance, Obama has kept more of his promises than breaking them. Not sure Trump has kept one of them. And he's not even sworn in yet.

Yep, me thinks that his groupies are already in denial of the reality, but they own him whether they like it or not. But it would be nice if they were at least honest in their portrayal of what Trump is actually saying.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Excuse me there but maybe you should do a little research before you blame only President-elect Trump's plans
Obama already set to spend $20B a year to update U.S. nukes
The US is Set to Spend $1 Trillion Upgrading Nuclear Weapons
Care to comment?

Obama wasn't going on about how the military is weak and needs to be larger and more powerful to put it back into a position it never lost.

 

[Revoltingest]

Yep, me thinks that his groupies are already in denial of the reality.....

Do you realize that by leaping to belief in scenarios not yet played out,
that you're living in a false reality. Tis better to keep an open mind.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Your analogy is incomplete.
I have a better one.
Voting for Trump is like painfully losing a limb in order to avoid a gangrene infection.
One cannot properly evaluate the choice of amputation without considering the
alternative, ie, a festering death.

Except in this case you get the amputation and find out the gangrene is still spreading. No "swamp was drained," and like it or not, Trump is filling his cabinet with a bunch of pro-Establishment and Conservative people. Things aren't going to change, except now we may get stuck with yet more Religious Conservative law. Washington will still be very pro-big business/anti-everybody else, insiders will still be calling the shots, and a president who is going to be powerless. Trump supporters are being pissed on and without the courtesy of calling it rain, and they are too delusional to do anything other than play the sycophant and declare how sweet their mana from heaven is.

 

[Revoltingest]

Except in this case you get the amputation and find out the gangrene is still spreading. No "swamp was drained," and like it or not, Trump is filling his cabinet with a bunch of pro-Establishment and Conservative people. Things aren't going to change, except now we may get stuck with yet more Religious Conservative law. Washington will still be very pro-big business/anti-everybody else, insiders will still be calling the shots, and a president who is going to be powerless. Trump supporters are being pissed on and without the courtesy of calling it rain, and they are too delusional to do anything other than play the sycophant and declare how sweet their mana from heaven is.

When considering one's vote, one must consider the alternatives.
To point out what is wrong with Trump is only half of the analysis.
One must consider the other choice. Only then can one decide
which is better or worse.
After the vote, whichever candidate wins is on auto-pilot from our
perspective, ie, our power has lessened.

I notice that most Hillary voters don't evaluate the candidates. They
pick their side (the Democrat de jour), & then attack the others side.
They'd defend their own, but Hillary just didn't inspire this. Tis as
though they're little voting robots, programmed to vote Democratic
no matter what.