Trump's son's business looking to hire six H-2 foreign workers @ $10.72/hr

[Shadow Wolf]

They'd defend their own, but Hillary just didn't inspire this. Tis as
though they're little voting robots, programmed to vote Democratic
no matter what.

I strongly feel that is very overgeneralized, to the point of an unfair attack, as pretty much the entire world knows about Trump's history with blacks and women, and Pence's abysmal record with civil rights and liberties. No, it can't possibly be because The People chose to not have a fowl mouthed, deranged, narcissistic, moronic, and dangerously borderline violent candidate as president. The People just voted for Hillary because they're "robots."

 

[Revoltingest]

I strongly feel that is very overgeneralized, to the point of an unfair attack....

It's horribly over-generalized (not to be taken too seriously).
But the shoe does fit a few.

 

[esmith]

Yes, I already provided you the definition of "Arms Race." The only one spinning it is you.

LMGTFY

I'd be disappointed too if the guy I voted for is doing the opposite of what was promised.

For instance, Obama has kept more of his promises than breaking them. Not sure Trump has kept one of them. And he's not even sworn in yet.

Guess when one does not have facts and only preconceptions of future events one has to rely on childish behavior. (pssst this is also a childish expression but apropos )

 

[tytlyf]

Guess when one does not have facts and only preconceptions of future events one has to rely on childish behavior. (pssst this is also a childish expression but apropos )

I'd be a tad pissed too in your situation. But I knew what Trump was all about last time he ran for president.

 

[esmith]

I'd be a tad pissed too in your situation. But I knew what Trump was all about last time he ran for president.

So tell me oh wise one what promises has President-elect Trump failed to follow through on seeing how he isn't even President yet?

Oh by the way your Obama
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor....not
I'm closing Gitmo......not (glad to see this)
Something about a "red line".....and to thwart your response....he had the power to do so, he did not need Congress's approval....except for a CYA

Campaign promises not kept
Eliminate all oil and gas tax loopholes
Expand the child and dependent care credit
Require publicly traded financial partnerships to pay the corporate income tax
Close loopholes in the corporate tax deductibility of CEO pay
Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners
Provide option for a pre-filled-out tax form
Create a mortgage interest tax credit for non-itemizers
Require automatic enrollment in 401(k) plans
Create a retirement savings tax credit for low incomes
End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
End no-bid contracts above $25,000
Create a $60 billion bank to fund roads and bridges
Tax carried interest as ordinary income
Sign the Employee Free Choice Act, making it easier for workers to unionize
Lift the payroll tax cap on earnings above $250,000

I could go on but I'll just give you the link I'm using
The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken | PolitiFact

 

[tytlyf]

So tell me oh wise one what promises has President-elect Trump failed to follow through on seeing how he isn't even President yet?

Oh by the way your Obama
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor....not
I'm closing Gitmo......not (glad to see this)
Something about a "red line".....and to thwart your response....he had the power to do so, he did not need Congress's approval....except for a CYA

Campaign promises not kept
Eliminate all oil and gas tax loopholes
Expand the child and dependent care credit
Require publicly traded financial partnerships to pay the corporate income tax
Close loopholes in the corporate tax deductibility of CEO pay
Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners
Provide option for a pre-filled-out tax form
Create a mortgage interest tax credit for non-itemizers
Require automatic enrollment in 401(k) plans
Create a retirement savings tax credit for low incomes
End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000
End no-bid contracts above $25,000
Create a $60 billion bank to fund roads and bridges
Tax carried interest as ordinary income
Sign the Employee Free Choice Act, making it easier for workers to unionize
Lift the payroll tax cap on earnings above $250,000

I could go on but I'll just give you the link I'm using
The Obameter: Campaign Promises that are Promise Broken | PolitiFact

He doesn't have to be president yet, Trump has already made statements on his reversals.

-Not gonna repeal Obamacare
-Not gonna build a wall
-Not gonna drain the swamp

These are just 3 examples of his flip flopping. And he's not even president yet. The main things people voted for him are already thrown to the wind. But we told you that long before the election.

Thanks for posting the Obamameter link, you'll notice he has kept more promises than broken. (even with the unprecedented obstruction by republicans in congress)

 

[metis]

He doesn't have to be president yet, Trump has already made statements on his reversals.

-Not gonna repeal Obamacare
-Not gonna build a wall
-Not gonna drain the swamp

These are just 3 examples of his flip flopping. And he's not even president yet. The main things people voted for him are already thrown to the wind. But we told you that long before the election.

Thanks for posting the Obamameter link, you'll notice he has kept more promises than broken. (even with the unprecedented obstruction by republicans in congress)

The issue of Obamacare is significant for several reasons, and it could turn out to be a major pitfall for his administration. If they eliminate it totally, that would kick around 26 million people off it, and that would likely go over like a lead balloon even with those who do not have it because most Americans are not that sadistic. And how can he keep certain parts, that are very costly, while eliminating some of the provisions that lessened to level of profit? And how can they get any agreement from other Republicans on how and what to replace it with?

Like someone said yesterday, this could be a great example of what happens if the dog actually catches up the car.

 

[tytlyf]

The issue of Obamacare is significant for several reasons, and it could turn out to be a major pitfall for his administration. If they eliminate it totally, that would kick around 26 million people off it, and that would likely go over like a lead balloon even with those who do not have it because most Americans are not that sadistic. And how can he keep certain parts, that are very costly, while eliminating some of the provisions that lessened to level of profit? And how can they get any agreement from other Republicans on how and what to replace it with?

Like someone said yesterday, this could be a great example of what happens if the dog actually catches up the car.

There's really only 1 reason the republicans/health insurance co's don't like the ACA......pre-existing conditions.

Outside of that issue, they don't really care about anything else.

It's all about the pre-existing conditions. To them, it's more important to put profit over people.

 

[Revoltingest]

There's really only 1 reason the republicans/health insurance co's don't like the ACA......pre-existing conditions.
Outside of that issue, they don't really care about anything else.
It's all about the pre-existing conditions. To them, it's more important to put profit over people.

And to others it's about getting rid of a program which made
insurance premiums so high that they can no longer afford them.
I know it's selfish of them to want to buy affordable health care
insurance, but I think that's reasonable self-interest.

 

[tytlyf]

And to others it's about getting rid of a program which made
insurance premiums so high that they can no longer afford them.
I know it's selfish of them to want to buy affordable health care
insurance, but I think that's reasonable self-interest.

That's not the fault of the ACA. Read my previous post, that's why the insurance co's are raising the rates.

The ACA requires insurance co's to cover pre-existing conditions
Pre-existing conditions cost the most to care for, which is why insurance co's didn't cover them
Now that they have to cover them, they're jacking their rates up on everyone.
The ACA introduced a free market system between private corporations for coverage
You're supposed to sign up for the new system at healthcare.gov.
If you don't sign up, it's your own fault for paying more.

 

[metis]

There's really only 1 reason the republicans/health insurance co's don't like the ACA......pre-existing conditions.

Outside of that issue, they don't really care about anything else.

It's all about the pre-existing conditions. To them, it's more important to put profit over people.

There's also the issue of the lifetime cap, which was discontinued under the ACA, with that on the corporate average previously being around $2 million.

The CBO analysis of the hypothetical ending of the ACA is that it would be financially disastrous, with premium costs skyrocketing.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's not the fault of the ACA.

Strong your faith is.
But Obamcare failed in its promises.

 

[tytlyf]

The CBO analysis of the hypothetical ending of the ACA is that it would be financially disastrous, with premium costs skyrocketing.

Exactly, the ACA doesn't set premium costs. The insurance companies do. So the only question that needs to be asked is....."how do countries cover pre-existing conditions without raising premiums?"
A good answer would be, charge people with pre-existing conditions more compared to everyone else. But the insurance co's wouldn't do that. Because they'd still be in the hole. Hell, they're in the hole charging everyone more.
So you can see how broken and problematic the health care system in America has become. Capitalism has taken it's grasp and greed has taken over. $20 for a box of kleenex? lmao

Strong your faith is.
But Obamcare failed in its promises.

What promises? Need examples

 

[Altfish]

Keep in mind, this is about Trump's son's business.

Amazing how during the election much of the flak was based on what Clinton's relatives were doing; but when it is Trump's relatives it is "Look the other way, nothing to see here"

 

[tytlyf]

Amazing how during the election much of the flak was based on what Clinton's relatives were doing; but when it is Trump's relatives it is "Look the other way, nothing to see here"

Oh ya, they made Bill the person running for president. Making up conspiracy theories about islands, pedophiles, children, etc. There is no bottom to their games. Let's not forget about the whole 'pay for play' and 'drip drip drip' nonsense. Pure propaganda.

 

[Revoltingest]

What promises? Need examples

This is an odd response.
Most of the time, Obamites admit the failures, but blame them on Republicans.
Some sources to pick thru....
Aetna Has Revealed Obamacare's Many Broken Promises
Ten Broken Obamacare Promises
Forbes Welcome

 

[tytlyf]

This is an odd response.
Most of the time, Obamites admit the failures, but blame them on Republicans.
Some sources to pick thru....
Aetna Has Revealed Obamacare's Many Broken Promises
Ten Broken Obamacare Promises
Forbes Welcome

Why would you source the Heritage Foundation and Cato institute? I thought you guys weren't into republican establishment think tanks? Especially Koch controlled 'think tanks.' So I'll source your forbes link.

Promises broken?

-Universal Care (you're angry that you weren't covered or something?)
-No new taxes on middle class (ACA tax ruled constitutional by SCOTUS)
-Annual Premium Savings of 2500 (You found after you enrolled that you didn't save money? I know I saved that much or more)
-No increase in the deficit (I'm seeing a decrease up to this day)
-You can keep your plan (Obama can't control what private companies decide to change)

Careful of your sources, they aren't credible.

ObamaCare Facts: An Independent Site For ACA Advice