Trumps wall -- breached

[Cooky]

Nope, you made a foolish error and need to reform your question.

Never.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Never.

Then you can only look foolish as a result. At the very least a wise person would have asked for help.

 

[Cooky]

Then you can only look foolish as a result. At the very least a wise person would have asked for help.

Okie dokie then.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Okie dokie then.

When you enjoy being wrong you make yourself a tool of the open boarders crowd. You are harming your own cause.

 

[Howard Is]

My point was not about land purchasing. It was about acknowledging that some nations will never develop to a standard of the 1st world. If those nations can not develop using internal systems then providing foreign aid is just welfare for a nation. Some nations are limited due to lack of resources. Same are limited due to geography. Some are limited due to history especially post-Ottoman Empire, Post-Spanish Empire, Post-British 2nd Empire carved up nations. The NA colonies federated. The other colonial empires fragmented. That fragmentation and maintaining it for mostly ethnic reasons is ignored as a problem. So if people want to maintain their limited and 3rd world states, let them.

You've given me a perspective worth considering.
I appreciate that.

 

[Cooky]

When you enjoy being wrong you make yourself a tool of the open boarders crowd. You are harming your own cause.

I asked you if doing something or doing nothing with securing the southern border was better. You didn't like my question, said it was a "foolish" question, now somehow it has morphed into me being "wrong"..... Wrong about what? How can a question be wrong... You make no sense.

...I don't even know why I waste my time with this.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Not surprised. The issue was raised before they started building. The wall is really only a symbol. The border security will only work if there's enough surveillance in place. No wall, and no crocodile filled moat can stop immigration or drug running on the border except people being there protecting it.

Stupid Mongolians, they keep wrecking the waalll!!!!

 

[Twilight Hue]

I have said for over a year that I can go to any hardware store and buy items to go over, go under or go through Trump's wall. What a waste of taxpayer money.

"Turns out, the wall is working about as well as can be expected, which is not that well. The Washington Post reports that smugglers have basically modified your standard issue cordless power tool that you could find at your local hardware store to saw through the new portions of the wall in just minutes. Border agents told the Post that after the smugglers slice through the barrier’s steel-and-concrete bollards, they are able to push the steel through, creating a passageway big enough to fit humans and drugs."

Smugglers Are Using $100 Hardware Store Power Tools to Saw Holes in Trump’s $10 Billion Wall

Those must be some really good quality tools . Did they mention a brand by any chance?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I asked you if doing something or doing nothing with securing the southern border was better. You didn't like my question, said it was a "foolish" question, now somehow it has morphed into me being "wrong"..... Wrong about what? How can a question be wrong... You make no sense.

...I don't even know why I waste my time with this.

And that was a foolish question since no one has proposed that, nor were we doing nothing before Trump's failed wall was built. By asking poorly formed questions and refusing to correct them you in effect make yourself wrong. It is always better to ask honest questions.

 

[Ouroboros]

Stupid Mongolians, they keep wrecking the waalll!!!!

At least the Chinese wall still stands after... is it 1000 years? Impressive feat. That's the kind of wall we need, and a crocodile moat on one side, and a moat with sharks with friggin' lasers on their heads.

If we want to go cheap, we can put up a wood fence and some aquariums with carps with laser pointers on their heads. It'll do fine.

 

[Cooky]

And that was a foolish question since no one has proposed that, nor were we doing nothing before Trump's failed wall was built. By asking poorly formed questions and refusing to correct them you in effect make yourself wrong. It is always better to ask honest questions.

For Pete's sake, I was just curious.

 

[Shad]

Yes, but for taking advantage of our taxpayer dollars, as they do, we should be allowed to exploit their low living costs. It's called a square deal.

This is mixing private and the state into one business.

 

[Shad]

You've given me a perspective worth considering.
I appreciate that.

Also take a look at Hong Kong and Singapore models and the history of Central America. There are system that could work but there is an aversion to capitalism by a significant portion of the population

 

[Skipper]

At least the Chinese wall still stands after... is it 1000 years? Impressive feat. That's the kind of wall we need, and a crocodile moat on one side, and a moat with sharks with friggin' lasers on their heads.

If we want to go cheap, we can put up a wood fence and some aquariums with carps with laser pointers on their heads. It'll do fine.

The Great Wall of China did not stop the Manchus from invading and overthrowing the Qing Dynasty in 1644. Historically the Great Wall of China was more successful in keeping Chinese in than foreigners out.

 

[Cooky]

This is mixing private and the state into one business.

It's about Latin American countries changing their laws for the benefit of Americans and other citizens of the world.

It has NOTHING to do with business. Not directly. It's about legalizing non-citizen land and home purchases... Just like America already has legalized for them, and others.

What is fair is fair.

 

[tytlyf]

Of course the wall wasn't going to stop human smuggling and people migrating. All the drugs go through ports of entry anyways. That $10 billion should have been used on personnel and technology.

 

[Ouroboros]

The Great Wall of China did not stop the Manchus from invading and overthrowing the Qing Dynasty in 1644. Historically the Great Wall of China was more successful in keeping Chinese in than foreigners out.

Isn't that the purpose of the Great Wall of Trump? Darn. Must've missed something...

 

[Shad]

It's about Latin American countries changing their laws for the benefit of Americans and other citizens of the world.

Sure but that is up to their populations. Beside you have to consider if world citizens involvement benefits your nation.

It has NOTHING to do with business. Not directly. It's about legalizing non-citizen land and home purchases... Just like America already has legalized for them, and others.

Business as in one thing not a business

Land can be used for a business. A home can be used as part of a business. It seems odd that you wouldn't consider business creation and operation instead of only residential real estate

What is fair is fair.

You mean having similar agreement or same exchange? Property rights in nation A and B via treaty.

Keep in mind place like Central America have had issues with 1st world enclaves via real estate. Take most resort based tourism for an example. Toss in CA has had a history of going from one extreme to another with only moderate position emerging as mainstream in the last few years.

 

[Politesse]

The Great Wall of China did not stop the Manchus from invading and overthrowing the Qing Dynasty in 1644. Historically the Great Wall of China was more successful in keeping Chinese in than foreigners out.

You know I've heard that said, even in my own history classes as a child, but there have long been plenty of Chinese folks abroad. Indeed, the borders that the PRC claims now well exceed the boundaries suggested by the various Great Walls. Just ask Tibet.

 

[Skipper]

You know I've heard that said, even in my own history classes as a child, but there have long been plenty of Chinese folks abroad. Indeed, the borders that the PRC claims now well exceed the boundaries suggested by the various Great Walls. Just ask Tibet.

China had ties with Tibet for centuries. There is debate as to whether Tibet was a part of China prior to 1959 or not. The Chinese government claims that the Yuan dynasty absorbed Tibet 800 years ago. It is not surprising that they had few if any government officials there as it was extremely difficult to travel from China to Tibet.

Personally I do not believe China would have invaded Tibet if they had not wanted a buffer state between them and India.