Oh you mean Panama county in the new state of Mexico?
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Trump's wall will save America money
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Oh you mean Panama county in the new state of Mexico?
Deathbydefault
Apistevist Asexual Atheist
I meant to say that not every person crossing over to America is using the tunnels, and that wont change with a wall. Those using the tunnels will increase, I wasn't intending to deny that. But every person crossing over isn't going to switch to the tunnel method just because there is a wall.
McBell
Unbound
The idea behind the wall is to keep illegal imigrants from entering the USA from Mexico.
Having the wall THREE COUNTRIES the OTHER SIDE of Mexico will not accomplish that.
They would be legal as a new state. Did you miss the invasion part?
I can't blame them for missing it, as its an incredibly stupid suggestion.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
"Clean up-aisle New Mexico..." Good one, M.
Augustus
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With drugs, the problem is not per se drug use, but the social harms that come from the drug trade and drug use.
If supply reduces, prices go up. While this might reduce casual usage, it tends to have little effect on addicts, however addicts have to fund their habit which requires them to commit more crimes. Drugs also tend to get cut more, often with more dangerous pharmaceutical products (i.e. fentanyl for heroin) increasing overdoses and hospitalisations. A restriction in drug supply can actually accentuate harms rather than reduce them.
If the price goes up, this also attracts more people to the trade and makes it viable to invest in more sophisticated drug importing techniques. Alternatively, it simply increases the amount that the cartels can afford to lose in customs seizures at legal border crossings, and there is a never ending supply of people willing to carry it over for them. More people being caught at the border also wastes tax payers money incarcerating them for 10+ years at $50,000 a year.
Increased profits also lead to greater conflict between drug gangs causing additional social harms.
A wall will not help to solve the drug problem in America, that is for certain.
Poisoned drugs is its own deterrent. Deaths from overdoses certainly helps cure the drug problem. Does that sound harsh? If casual users stop, those are lives saved, since casual users become regular users, if they don't stop. Deport people caught at the border or execute them. There's no excuse for paying 50,000 a year to incarcerate them, except to those who are getting paid 50,000 for the job, plus probably using them as slave labor. So yes we have major problems but Trump is a workaholic.
It's not a question of the wall. We wouldn't have had such a huge problem if our government had focused more on punishing employers of illegal immigrants.
Our policies have been contradictory. On the one hand, we've pushed for NAFTA and open trade with Mexico, which necessitates open borders and unrestricted commerce, yet at the same time we've wanted more security at the border due to the war on drugs and illegal border crossings.
If Mexico is such a horrible place that we need these kinds of measures to protect ourselves from them, why on Earth would we want free trade with them? Why not just close the borders entirely, no commerce, no tourists - nothing?
I'm not seriously proposing closing the borders, but if we believe that a wall is so desperately needed, why wouldn't we consider the option?
Our policies have been contradictory. On the one hand, we've pushed for NAFTA and open trade with Mexico, which necessitates open borders and unrestricted commerce, yet at the same time we've wanted more security at the border due to the war on drugs and illegal border crossings.
If Mexico is such a horrible place that we need these kinds of measures to protect ourselves from them, why on Earth would we want free trade with them? Why not just close the borders entirely, no commerce, no tourists - nothing?
I'm not seriously proposing closing the borders, but if we believe that a wall is so desperately needed, why wouldn't we consider the option?
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
I wonder how many of those building the wall will be Mexican illegals.
Will they sabotage it as they build, or build in, door like, weak spots.
Will they sabotage it as they build, or build in, door like, weak spots.
jonathan180iq
Well-Known Member
Does anyone really think that a 2,000 mile long wall can be built in 4 years?
What's the cost of the wall when factoring in all of the protests and vandalism that are inevitably going to take place? There will be brazen activists on both sides of the border looking to halt production of this thing at every turn. Have those costs been factored in?
Does no else one think it's strange that such a brilliant business mind, like the Donald's, can quote a price for a project that hasn't even been designed yet?
Is no one taken aback by the fact that proponents now are supposedly in favor of paying for a wall that was promised to be free? Even news articles are having to change tactics in hopes of selling the idea of how awesome it will be to pay for such a huge project... Strange, isn't it?
What's the cost of the wall when factoring in all of the protests and vandalism that are inevitably going to take place? There will be brazen activists on both sides of the border looking to halt production of this thing at every turn. Have those costs been factored in?
Does no else one think it's strange that such a brilliant business mind, like the Donald's, can quote a price for a project that hasn't even been designed yet?
Is no one taken aback by the fact that proponents now are supposedly in favor of paying for a wall that was promised to be free? Even news articles are having to change tactics in hopes of selling the idea of how awesome it will be to pay for such a huge project... Strange, isn't it?