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Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Maybe you should question why you got into that fight in the first place.

Following a liar and scoundrel will put you in a bad place.
I try to avoid labelling political ideologies or movements, but i feel I must in this case to get my point across.

My view is simply black and white, there's nothing complicated about it. The right of politics stands for sticking with the proven product ie. conservative. The left pushes progressiveness, which takes the country into the unknown realm.

As an ultra conservative right winger, I believe in all the traditional values which built the free western world (which all the commies and Islamic people risk death in the back of a semi trailer to come and join).

If your communism was so great why is everyone dying to escape it
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
More riddles. More vague notions. More conspiracy mysteries.
All bark and no bite.

Why would I have to go on my own investigation? Why can't you just share the evidence you claimed to have access to? Or was it perhaps not true, that you have evidence...?

:rolleyes:
I'll show you the evidence if you pay for the hire of the swamp draining machine :eek:
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
How about you choose neither and instead be glad you live in a secular democracy instead?
I'm glad your just joking, as nobody in their right mind could possibly believe that. We are frogs in the pot and it';s getting hotter by the hour. It won't be long before we live under a completely totalitarian brutal dictatorship, where millions are culled.
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
You are very correct.
I am the kind of person who's not at all interested in what the Nazi's have to say in their defence, especially not the likes of HItler and Goebels and alike.

And we do know quite a lot about Hitler. As for "his side of the story", he wrote it down in Mein Kampf.
Don't you have a copy? You sound like the type of person that would have a copy.
I've read the book, but he wrote that 14 years before WW2 so he still had a lot to learn at that time.

I knew you didn't have the courage to face the facts so you just bury your head in the sand and say "don't let the facts get in the way". That may float your boat but it will lead you to a head on crash with reality one day. I hope you find the courage to face the truth before that horrible day finds you unprepared
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
Insurrectionists brought guns to the Capitol. It didn’t need to be a gun fight. Were the police that died there at their hands enemies of the Law-and-Order crowd? What about “Police Lives Matter?” These are your enemies? Are you at war with the Vice President, calling for him to be hanged?
We know those who invaded the Capitol were Antifa operatives, they were sent there for the sole purpose of making Trump look bad and it worked wonders cause all the sheeple swallowed the bait
 

Pilgrim Soldier

Active Member
IOW, he was a national security risk, and was breaking the agreement he signed with the platforms.
There's no justification for gagging the leader of the free world. People are not all dummies, we don't need big brother to spoon feed us crap and sensor everything we hear
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I'm glad your just joking, as nobody in their right mind could possibly believe that. We are frogs in the pot and it';s getting hotter by the hour. It won't be long before we live under a completely totalitarian brutal dictatorship, where millions are culled.


You got that backwards. Now that Trump is out of office and the pathetic attempt at insurrection failed, you are no longer at risk of that happening.
Not in the next 4 years anyway.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I've read the book

How unsurprising.
You have a copy to, don't you?

, but he wrote that 14 years before WW2 so he still had a lot to learn at that time.

:rolleyes:

I knew you didn't have the courage to face the facts so you just bury your head in the sand and say "don't let the facts get in the way". That may float your boat but it will lead you to a head on crash with reality one day. I hope you find the courage to face the truth before that horrible day finds you unprepared

"the truth" being that Hitler's Nazi Germany wasn't necessarily going to be a bad thing?

:D :D :D

You really are something else.........................

There's no point in trying to reason with you about anything, is there?
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I reject all of those accusations out of hand, because he was a self made billionaire so money was not his motivation for running for the office. He has more money than he knows what to do with.

So he claims. But, without those tax forms, we don't know that. In all likelihood he is in severe financial trouble and was trying to use the presidency to avoid his own problems.

Why didn't the media giants ever tell the public that the man gave every dime of his salary as president to charity organisations. No other president has ever done that so he is the best and most decent and honest president of all time.

A nice diversion while he was raking in money from using the government to promote his own businesses.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
We don't know much about Hitler at all, he may have been a nice man for all we know. He never got to the chance to tell his side of the story.
I get the terrible sense that your not the kind of person who has any interest in what the other side has to say in it's defence.
I don't think you'd live long if you were a judge, nothing worse than a corrupt judge who accepts bribes and refuses to hear the defence.
:facepalm:

You are right. Given the crimes the fascists have perpetrated across the world, I am not interested in hearing their side of the story any more than I am in hearing Mao's side of the Chinese revolution.

Frankly, it scares me that someone can even think of justifying what they have done. And what the new breed of fascists are now doing. They are actively trying to overthrow our democracy.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I haven't invested much time in studying the Spanish revolution, but I think it's safe to say that Franco never had the support of all Spaniards so he wasn't running the country as a sovereign ruler. He has to waste vast resources to defend himself and his supporters from the socialists who were hell bent on killing him.

Hitler and Mussolini had to deal with the same enemy within as Franco, so none of them gained control nor did they ever get to implement their policies so we will never know what could have been if they succeeded .

Oh, they implemented their policies all right. Their policies were to kill anyone who disagreed with them.

In *any* political system you will have people in opposition. The question is whether you have a free society where this is allowed, even encouraged, or whether you have a repressive system where opposition is suppressed. Fascists took the suppression route. So did the communists. Both were evil.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
:facepalm:

You are right. Given the crimes the fascists have perpetrated across the world, I am not interested in hearing their side of the story any more than I am in hearing Mao's side of the Chinese revolution.

Frankly, it scares me that someone can even think of justifying what they have done. And what the new breed of fascists are now doing. They are actively trying to overthrow our democracy.
He has a good point you know:


EDIT: Oops, I think older is better in this case, and shorter:


SECOND EDIT: Fun fact. The same line is lip synced in both songs. Who actually said it and what was it?
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I try to avoid labelling political ideologies or movements, but i feel I must in this case to get my point across.

My view is simply black and white, there's nothing complicated about it. The right of politics stands for sticking with the proven product ie. conservative. The left pushes progressiveness, which takes the country into the unknown realm.

As an ultra conservative right winger, I believe in all the traditional values which built the free western world (which all the commies and Islamic people risk death in the back of a semi trailer to come and join).

If your communism was so great why is everyone dying to escape it

One of those traditional values was to embrace the unknown.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm glad your just joking, as nobody in their right mind could possibly believe that. We are frogs in the pot and it';s getting hotter by the hour. It won't be long before we live under a completely totalitarian brutal dictatorship, where millions are culled.

only if the fascists get back in power.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
We know those who invaded the Capitol were Antifa operatives, they were sent there for the sole purpose of making Trump look bad and it worked wonders cause all the sheeple swallowed the bait
Can’t be. Anita isn’t an organization with any members. It’s simply an ideology: against fascism. Aren’t you against fascism? Oh, wait! You said that Trump deserved to rule the world. I’d say the insurrectionists were far from anti fascist. And not “patriots.” Im glad many have been arrested and face federal charges for beating policemen with American flags.
 
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