ppp
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Are you claiming that the polio vaccine is bad because you had a negative reaction to it?
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Truth is not constant.
- Thread starter Spirit of Light
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Now you know if you read my post # 240 I did Not say the vaccine is bad.
However, one researcher at the time thought the vaccine could later lead to cancer and because of his view he withdrew.
ppp
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240 was the post to which I was responding. I was unclear as to your meaning, which is why I asked for clarification. I should think that would be better than assuming.
Your post seems to imply that because technology has not produced perfect answers, that it is not superior to any and all of the answers produced by the assorted religious and spiritual beliefs that abound.
No, I am Not against the vaccine.
I find Jesus said the sick need a physician - Luke 5:31; Matthew 9:12; Mark 2:17
Gospel writer Luke was a doctor - Colossians 4:14
Technology can't produce perfect answers because man can't direct his step - Jeremiah 10:23; 17:9
This is why God is having Jesus step in, so to speak.
People have said to me we don't need Jesus because technology will solve the problem.
That each generation has problems to solve and it is this generation to solve the problems of now.
'Abounding assorted religious beliefs' shows something is out of harmony with the teaching of Christ.
ppp
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Good. Because our technology, imperfect as it is, is all that is addressing our ills. You quote words. When your god steps up and acts, I will take him into consideration. Not before.
It all hinges on definitions, ambiguity of which probably accounts for half the content on discussion and debate threads here.
Please show one man made disease that is free in the general population.
Sorry to hear of you bad reaction to the polio vaccine, not to serious i i hope?
I dont know where you are or your circumstances
. But if i was told to have a booster shot with no mention of it when due i would be contacting the health department to see why.
This is a temple i accept for my family's health and my own
Thief
Rogue Theologian
then reality is ALL in your head
where the definition is formed
but I'm not buying that
Well, that's going a little further than I intended. I was thinking more of the recurring "evolution's only a theory" type misunderstandings.
In your example, for example, is 'sound' an aerial wave pattern, or is it a perception of same?
Thank you for asking.
Ebola was one.
Reaction was serious enough that I could barely walk home (one small block) from the fire house ( that is where the vaccine was set up )
Doctor wrote a note to dismiss me from gym class when I started jr. high. I did Not ask for a note that was his decision.
At high school ( Not wanting to be different ) I tried gym class and became totally exhausted. Took a long time to recover.
Back in the 60's information was Not available as it is today. No one I knew seemed to remember being told about the booster.
Plus, there was No agreement about the possibility about being given a booster shot. Not even enough interest about it.
Scripture does recommend seeing a physician, after all gospel writer Luke was a doctor.
Science can't bring about the healthy conditions as described in Isaiah 35th chapter.
Science can't bring about ' healing ' for earth's nations as mentioned at Revelation 22:2.
Science can't bring about an end to ' enemy death ' on Earth - 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
To me the world scene now shows with the accuracy of Luke 21:11; Matthew 24:14 that the coming healthy conditions are on the way.
Even though the world will never accept such healthy conditions as ever being real.
Depends on what truth is.
Ebola is a natural disease, discovered in the 1970s when 2 outbreaks in remote regions of Africa. If you think it man made i recommend a good aluminium foil hat maker
Yet science has provided many health benefits, reducing and/or eradicating several deadly diseases where prayer did nothing for thousands of years. Science has tripled (or more) the human lifespan in the last 100 or so years.
Your reaction is unfortunate and very rare, generally speaking vaccines are a bonus for human health.
Speaking to my mom, born just after the war, some vaccines she had were single dose, others required a booster. Raising children of my own it's the same now. Why you had no option for a booster if the vaccine required a booster i can only put down to a poor health service or not requesting the booster.
Thank you for your reply. I do recall about one so-called manufactured disease thinking it was connected to Ebola, even with Covid-19 I heard of tampering.
To me it is Not so much as to how these things are here but that they are here.
No one I know is saying science has Not provided many health benefits. As I said who would want polio ______
I recall already back in the late 70's mothers against vaccines, and I do wonder what happened to those children.
In high school we were told that war was population control.
Since war is Not now controlling population as in the past, released disease can control population.
When Jesus said that Scripture is religious truth (John 17:17) Jesus was Not speaking about truth in general.
ppp
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Then its not truth. It is, at best, a statement of limited use.
Jesus often prefaced his statements with the words, " It is written......" meaning already written down in the old Hebrew Scriptures.
Thus, Jesus used logical reasoning on the old Hebrew Scriptures as the truthful basis for his teachings.
Since the Bible does Not change, its use is un-limited in teaching religious truth as found in the Bible.
ppp
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You are incorrect. This:
Does not follow logically from this;
Does not follow logically from this;
"It is written..." is not a basis for truth.
That is demonstrably and obviously false. But even if it were true, it would be irrelevant. Unchanging is not an indicator that the claim is true.
"Religious truth" is uninteresting. True in reality is all that matters,
I wonder who said religious truth has to be interesting in order for it to be the truth.
What is true in reality does matter.
To me the present world scene ( Luke 21:11; 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13) is true reality today and matters.
Matters because we are at the ' final phase ' about God's kingdom being declared on an international scale just as written at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8.
This means we are nearing the ' final signal ' when the powers that be will be saying, " Peace and Security...." which will prove to be the precursor to the coming great tribulation (Rev. 7:14,9) before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will be the one who will usher in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.
ppp
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You're confused. I was not offering "interesting as a measure of truth. What I said is that only things that a true in reality are interesting. Things that are merely "religious truth" are not interesting.
There is no reason to take the book seriously. When you can demonstrate that thwe books claims are true in reality, then you will have something.
The claim of Matthew 24:14 is true because the good news about God's kingdom is Now declared world wide just as Jesus said - Acts 1:8.
Modern technology has helped because it has made rapid bible translation possible so Now people even in remote areas of Earth have access to scripture.
In reality the political is weary of troublesome religion. People have dried up spiritually only having a form of godly devotion.
Corrupted religion has put herself on the United Nations radar, so with backing the UN can be strengthened to go up against the religious world.
So, yes there is every reason to take the book seriously.