Truth is not constant.

[ChristineM]

Thank you for your reply. I do recall about one so-called manufactured disease thinking it was connected to Ebola, even with Covid-19 I heard of tampering.
To me it is Not so much as to how these things are here but that they are here.
No one I know is saying science has Not provided many health benefits. As I said who would want polio ______
I recall already back in the late 70's mothers against vaccines, and I do wonder what happened to those children.
In high school we were told that war was population control.
Since war is Not now controlling population as in the past, released disease can control population.

Conspiracy theories abound don't they?
And trump does not help with his irrational and hateful comments

Family planning is a far better method of population control than killing the excess in war

 

[ppp]

The claim of Matthew 24:14 is true because the good news about God's kingdom is Now declared world wide just as Jesus said - Acts 1:8.
Modern technology has helped because it has made rapid bible translation possible so Now people even in remote areas of Earth have access to scripture.
In reality the political is weary of troublesome religion. People have dried up spiritually only having a form of godly devotion.
Corrupted religion has put herself on the United Nations radar, so with backing the UN can be strengthened to go up against the religious world.
So, yes there is every reason to take the book seriously.

So your argument is that I should take the Bible seriously because books are published worldwide, and you think that all religious are corrupt except for yours. That is some weak tea.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Conspiracy theories abound don't they?
And trump does not help with his irrational and hateful comments
Family planning is a far better method of population control than killing the excess in war

My thoughts also, and how does one bring about ' family planning ' for example in Africa.
I see commercials for what used to the be Christian's child fund, but I have yet to see any child who was helped even 30 years ago appear on the commercial.
To me, God had 'family planning' in mind when He instituted the marriage arrangement with both parents being responsible for their children.
Often on the news I see a woman in a bad situation with No man in the picture. No man being responsible for what he produced. (?)
So, I do agree family planning is a far better method of population control than killing in any wars.
However, how does one get humanity to bring about ' family planning '.

As far as the political scenes: When the wicked rule the people mourn according to Proverbs 29:2, Proverbs 29:11-12; Ecclesiastes 8:9.
Christians are cautioned Not to speak bad of a ruler - Exodus 22:28; Acts of the Apostles 23:5 B - because God does allow the powers that be to try to keep structure in society - Romans 13the chapter.
For Christians: God is the *North Star* (compass) for directions for Peace on Earth. ( which includes responsible family planning )

 

[URAVIP2ME]

So your argument is that I should take the Bible seriously because books are published worldwide, and you think that all religious are corrupt except for yours. That is some weak tea.

Why else would a person belong to a religion unless they believed it was the right one _______________
Take the Bible seriously along with what we see in the world scene today.
The Bible is Not just published world wide ( more languages than any other book ) but distributed even in remote areas of Earth.
Remote translation offices translate on location so people can have Scripture right there in their own mother tongue, native languages.
Brewed tea can become very strong.

 

[ppp]

Why else would a person belong to a religion unless they believed it was the right one

Your believing that you are right is not an argument that you are right. It's just some random person sitting there and believing.

The Bible is Not just published world wide ( more languages than any other book ) but distributed even in remote areas of Earth.

Lots of books is nothing more than lots of books. The number of books or translations does nothing to indicate a that there is a god. Are you actually being serious with this?

 

[amorphous_constellation]

Truth change according to what level of wisdom a person has achieved.
It means two people do not see the same truth, because no person hold the exact same wisdom level.
Relative truth and conditional truth are two different truths, but they are both true.

Does truth need our opinion on it to exist?

 

[ChristineM]

how does one bring about ' family planning ' for example in Africa.

Education to end the dogma of religious teaching.

To me, God had 'family planning' in mind when He instituted the marriage arrangement with both parents being responsible for their children.

Pair bonding was a thing say before religion was born, no god involved. I see religious marriage as another form of control and ownership.

Often on the news I see a woman in a bad situation with No man in the picture. No man being responsible for what he produced

Yes men who dip their wick and run at the first signs of responsibility for their pleasure are abundant

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Your believing that you are right is not an argument that you are right. It's just some random person sitting there and believing.
Lots of books is nothing more than lots of books. The number of books or translations does nothing to indicate a that there is a god. Are you actually being serious with this?

Jesus believed that he was right and not just sitting there and believing because Jesus based his believing by his logical reasoning on the old Hebrew Scriptures and explaining them, expounding them to us.
Yes, 'lots of books is nothing more than lots of books' or as Ecclesiastes 12:12 says to the making of many books there is No end, and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh. So, just the increasing of the knowledge of many books just increases frustration. This is chasing after the wind.
Jesus was serious about warning us about what is going to happen as you can see now or soon see later.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Education to end the dogma of religious teaching.
Pair bonding was a thing say before religion was born, no god involved. I see religious marriage as another form of control and ownership.
Yes men who dip their wick and run at the first signs of responsibility for their pleasure are abundant

And how does one bring about education regardless of any religious involvement ________________
How is secular education going to stop un-wed mothers, or un-wed fathers not supporting what they procreate _____________
Many schools are already indoctrinational centers separate from religion.
One mother complained to me about her un-wed daugher ( who had 3 children, 2 by different fathers )
She was upset about the ' benefits ' from the government (Uncle Sam).
When I told her that her daughter should get a divorce she said her daughter was Not married.
I said she is if she chose Uncle Sam to be her common-law ' husband ' ( support ).

Religious marriage is supposed to be just as Ephesians 5:33 says that each must love his wife as he loves himself and the wife should respect her husband.
So, if they work as such a co-operating ' team ' which is Not control but well-regulated pair bonding - Genesis 2:24.

 

[ChristineM]

And how does one bring about education regardless of any religious involvement ________________
How is secular education going to stop un-wed mothers, or un-wed fathers not supporting what they procreate

Education helps, however there will always be irresponsible idiots, religious or not

Many schools are already indoctrinational centers separate from religion.

What is to indoctrinate if not religion?

One mother complained to me about her un-wed daugher ( who had 3 children, 2 by different fathers )
She was upset about the ' benefits ' from the government (Uncle Sam).
When I told her that her daughter should get a divorce she said her daughter was Not married.
I said she is if she chose Uncle Sam to be her common-law ' husband ' ( support ).

There are over 3.5 billion women on this ball of rock. Most of them are not irresponsible, a few are. Did you ask if the daughter was raised religious or not, or did you simply assume that she wasn't?

P.s. it is not up to you to advise divorce. (But hey, perhaps you did assume a lack of religion so it doesn't matter (sarcasm)

Religious marriage is supposed to be just as Ephesians 5:33 says that each must love his wife as he loves himself and the wife should respect her husband.
So, if they work as such a co-operating ' team ' which is Not control but well-regulated pair bonding - Genesis 2:24.

And the husband should respect their wife, contrary to religious opinion married women are not property.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Education helps, however there will always be irresponsible idiots, religious or not
What is to indoctrinate if not religion?
There are over 3.5 billion women on this ball of rock. Most of them are not irresponsible, a few are. Did you ask if the daughter was raised religious or not, or did you simply assume that she wasn't?
P.s. it is not up to you to advise divorce. (But hey, perhaps you did assume a lack of religion so it doesn't matter (sarcasm)
And the husband should respect their wife, contrary to religious opinion married women are not property.

I find ' religious opinion' does Not necessarily match what we can learn from the Bible.
Please read Ephesians 5:33 because a husband is to love his wife as he loves himself. - Ephesians 5:25.
A wife should respect her husband.

Jesus is the one who gave advice about divorce according to Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9.
' fornication ' is scriptural grounds for divorce.
( the reason Jesus did Not say adultery is because ' fornication' ( porneia in the Greek ) is more comprehensive in meaning.
Porneia can include having sex with an animal as scriptural grounds for divorce.

Where I live seems to be a big part of this ' ball of rock ' (except for one widower every house on these rocks has women in it ).

'What is to indoctrinate if Not religion ?'
Religion should teach us the 'way ' to serve God.
The Bible teaches us the ' way ' to serve God ( morality to be governed by ).
False religion simply teaches the ' wrong way ' to believe/ serve God.
So, it is such propaganda that teaches ' what ' to think. ( indoctrinate ) .
Whereas, Education teaches ' how ' to think.
Science is Not there to be the teacher of morality.

Irresponsible ones, so to speak, which are going to be classed as the haughty figurative 'sheep ' of Matthew 25:31-32 will come to their end.
The humble figurative ' sheep ' of Matthew 25:37 are the responsible ones who will be the first persons of Jesus' 1,000 year reign over Earth.

 

[ChristineM]

I find ' religious opinion' does Not necessarily match what we can learn from the Bible.
Please read Ephesians 5:33 because a husband is to love his wife as he loves himself. - Ephesians 5:25.
A wife should respect her husband.

Jesus is the one who gave advice about divorce according to Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9.
' fornication ' is scriptural grounds for divorce.
( the reason Jesus did Not say adultery is because ' fornication' ( porneia in the Greek ) is more comprehensive in meaning.
Porneia can include having sex with an animal as scriptural grounds for divorce.

Where I live seems to be a big part of this ' ball of rock ' (except for one widower every house on these rocks has women in it ).

'What is to indoctrinate if Not religion ?'
Religion should teach us the 'way ' to serve God.
The Bible teaches us the ' way ' to serve God ( morality to be governed by ).
False religion simply teaches the ' wrong way ' to believe/ serve God.
So, it is such propaganda that teaches ' what ' to think. ( indoctrinate ) .
Whereas, Education teaches ' how ' to think.
Science is Not there to be the teacher of morality.

Irresponsible ones, so to speak, which are going to be classed as the haughty figurative 'sheep ' of Matthew 25:31-32 will come to their end.
The humble figurative ' sheep ' of Matthew 25:37 are the responsible ones who will be the first persons of Jesus' 1,000 year reign over Earth.

So no answers to my questions about your post, instead you attempt to divert via bible verse... Fair enought