Try to prove to me your religion.

[Muffled]

It makes sense.

If you are given a test in school. You cannot cheat, if you cheat you will get 0.

Same way you must be good in this life and you get a reward.

Difference is that the reward of Jannah is too good.

Either people listen and obey or they do not after been given the message.

It is how it is.

I believe if the teacher gives you all the answers you will get 100%.

 

[Muffled]

I believe that you're by far the most immature and deluded person whom I've encountered.

I believe that you have no reason for anything whatsoever but gives out cards of heaven and hell based on w gat appeals to you.

I believe that someone who says this:

I believe there was someone who told the Apostle Paul that he was mad from too much learning. I believe the more educated a person becomes the farther he gets from the truth of God.

Should stop trolling everywhere and making a joke of everything by your presence.

And also I believe, that unless you repent and turn to the TRUE GOD KRISHNA, you'll not get heaven.

"There is no truth superior to me. Everything rests up in me as pearls are strung on a thread"
Bhagavad Gita
Spoken 3000 years before your deity.

I believe if you have never asked for reasons then you have no basis for saying I don't have any. Sorry got to go but more later.

 

[Jabar]

I believe if the teacher gives you all the answers you will get 100%.

No, not in this situation.

He gave people a free will, even when given the answers, they reject.

 

[Muffled]

Yes, if you are a disbeliever and you mean it then you will.

Go read the scriptures and find out yourself.

http://www.sunnah.org/aqida/forty_hadith_merits_tahlil.htm

I believe that link was to Hadiths and I believe Hadiths lack validity.Find something in the Qu'ran if you can.

 

[Muffled]

I believe that you're by far the most immature and deluded person whom I've encountered.

I believe that you have no reason for anything whatsoever but gives out cards of heaven and hell based on w gat appeals to you.

I believe that someone who says this:

I believe there was someone who told the Apostle Paul that he was mad from too much learning. I believe the more educated a person becomes the farther he gets from the truth of God.

Should stop trolling everywhere and making a joke of everything by your presence.

And also I believe, that unless you repent and turn to the TRUE GOD KRISHNA, you'll not get heaven.

"There is no truth superior to me. Everything rests up in me as pearls are strung on a thread"
Bhagavad Gita
Spoken 3000 years before your deity.

I believe you haven't been on RF long enough then. I am most mature having lived 73 years learning and growing all those years. I am not deluded and my reasoning will reveal that.

I believe I don't know why you say this but I will allow you to explain it if you can.

I believe you are in error on all three counts. I have repented my sin, and turned to the only God, Jesus who is not Krishna and I have already been in Heaven.

I beleive I have read the whole BG and would have believed him if it were not for the fact that he did not speak the entire truth.

I believe truth is not subject to time.

 

[Jabar]

I believe that link was to Hadiths and I believe Hadiths lack validity.Find something in the Qu'ran if you can.

Lack validity?

No, they do have validity.

However, not like the Qur'an obviously.

The Hadith stories are accurate.




You made a false accusation.

 

[Muffled]

Lack validity?

No, they do have validity.

However, not like the Qur'an obviously.

The Hadith stories are accurate.




You made a false accusation.

I believe I do not hear the voice of God in the Hadiths. Also from what I read a whole bunch of authors said they were quoting Mohammed when they were not.

I believe it is very difficult to authenticate any of it but you are welcome to try.

I don't believe I was accusing anyone of anything, just stating the facts. I would take the same view of Gnostic writings.

 

[JustWondering]

I believe purpose is different from design. One may not infer a purpose simply from a design IMO. For me God saying that He created everything denotes purpose. If He didn't tell you how would you know?

So you are simply assuming the universe had to be created by something, because you have provided no evidence or a convincing argument.

Even if we assume the universe was created, it could have been created by anything for any reason. You need to provide something more substantial than "I believe MY god concept is real" if you want non-believers to take you seriously. I understand you believe, but this is not a debate about if you believe, it's about if you can back up your beliefs to those who don't believe.

 

[JustWondering]

I believe the more educated a person becomes the farther he gets from the truth of God.

If your god were real, wouldn't more knowledge about how the universe works bring you closer to god? It is all supposed to be his creation after all.

 

[JustWondering]

The Hadith stories are accurate.

The problem with assuming the Hadiths are true is that you have to assume that no one lies to get what they want. After the Prophet died and wasn't around to raise objections, those that knew him were free to make up whatever stories they wanted to support their agenda.

You made a false accusation.

This is a debate Jabar. You need to provide something more substantial than the equivalent of a childish "nah-ah!" to something you don't agree with. If you are unwilling or unable to do that, no one will take you seriously.

 

[Jabar]

I believe I do not hear the voice of God in the Hadiths. Also from what I read a whole bunch of authors said they were quoting Mohammed when they were not.

I believe it is very difficult to authenticate any of it but you are welcome to try.

I don't believe I was accusing anyone of anything, just stating the facts. I would take the same view of Gnostic writings.

Just because they are not the voice of God does not make them invalid.

There are many many Hadiths that talk about it.

You said that it was wrong but made a false accusation once again.

 

[Jabar]

The problem with assuming the Hadiths are true is that you have to assume that no one lies to get what they want. After the Prophet died and wasn't around to raise objections, those that knew him were free to make up whatever stories they wanted to support their agenda.



This is a debate Jabar. You need to provide something more substantial than the equivalent of a childish "nah-ah!" to something you don't agree with. If you are unwilling or unable to do that, no one will take you seriously.

Calling the Hadith a lie shows your ignorance.

I would advise you to go check them out before making those accusations.

It is a debate, which is why i am proving your point wrong.

Muffled came at me and told me that it is false so i was proving my point.

I am not saying anything equivalent to a childish ''nah-ah!'' rather you are.

 

[Faronator]

I don't believe I defined it.

I believe God has said that He always exists.

I believe living beings have a different type of intelligence.

I believe the intelligence of living beings shows an orderly design just as the universe does. I don't believe God is interested in replicating His own intelligence.

I believe this is more supposition than fact. People lack knowledge but knowledge has increased over the years.

But even living beings such as humans haven't always had intelligence - we had to develop it (it wasn't given to us).

 

[Faronator]

Calling the Hadith a lie shows your ignorance.

I would advise you to go check them out before making those accusations.

It is a debate, which is why i am proving your point wrong.

Muffled came at me and told me that it is false so i was proving my point.

I am not saying anything equivalent to a childish ''nah-ah!'' rather you are.

You proved his point wrong, how? By saying "just because?" No....

Prove it - don't just say it.

I'll wait for you to recite verses now.

 

[Subhankar Zac]

I believe you haven't been on RF long enough then. I am most mature having lived 73 years learning and growing all those years. I am not deluded and my reasoning will reveal that.

I believe I don't know why you say this but I will allow you to explain it if you can.

I believe you are in error on all three counts. I have repented my sin, and turned to the only God, Jesus who is not Krishna and I have already been in Heaven.

I beleive I have read the whole BG and would have believed him if it were not for the fact that he did not speak the entire truth.

I believe truth is not subject to time.

Congratulations!
You've crossed all borders of logical fallacies and futile arguments without the tiniest shred of evidence.

 

[paarsurrey]

Congratulations!
You've crossed all borders of logical fallacies and futile arguments without the tiniest shred of evidence.

Please don't be surprised, Christianity was never reasonable. Was it ever? Please
Regards

 

[Subhankar Zac]

Please don't be surprised, Christianity was never reasonable. Was it ever? Please
Regards

None of the three Abrahamic religions were reasonable. Christianity just tops the list in that.

 

[Jabar]

You proved his point wrong, how? By saying "just because?" No....

Prove it - don't just say it.

I'll wait for you to recite verses now.

How about he proves it since he just told me it is not.

You are big on the bandwagon.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

None of the three Abrahamic religions were reasonable. Christianity just tops the list in that.

That's debatable.

 

[Faronator]

How about he proves it since he just told me it is not.

You are big on the bandwagon.

Unless you can prove otherwise - he just did. You see, that's how a debate works. He came at you with an argument, you said you proved him wrong by saying absolutely nothing, and when called out on it - this is your response.

Well...well....well....even though I said I proved him wrong uh uh uh he has to prove it to me because I have no way of refuting his claims (non scriptural evidence).