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Tunisia and Egypt ! Way to go
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Primordial Annihilator
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What events would these be maro?
maro
muslimah
A civil unrest that lead to the fall of the authoritiorian Ben Ali regime
Timeline: Tunisia's civil unrest - Tunisia - Al Jazeera English
Timeline: Tunisia's civil unrest - Tunisia - Al Jazeera English
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Bismillah
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I think it may have some influence on the poorer countries like Libya, but that it is an exception.
If people were determined to rid themselves of their rulers in more successful countries like Jordan or Saudi Arabia, the death toll would be much higher plus the fact that these governments are supported by the West which would most likely limit support for the general populace.
If people were determined to rid themselves of their rulers in more successful countries like Jordan or Saudi Arabia, the death toll would be much higher plus the fact that these governments are supported by the West which would most likely limit support for the general populace.
Gaura Priya
IRL
Alhamdulillah! Wonderful!
EiNsTeiN
Boo-h!
I'm sure this would motivate other nearby countries to do the same, regardless of what would be the results.
Most of us are really fed up the long-lasting governments ruling us, and their corruptions. We want to kick them out no matter how much would that cost us, and regardless of the consequences.
The very best wishes to you in your efforts! But be careful! It would break my heart if anything should happen to you.
Sometimes I wonder. What exactly does support from the West mean when it comes to governments?
fatima_bintu_islam
Active Member
As a british commentator said on Euronews: American and European governments are not really happy of this, with the never lasting excuse of fear of "Islamism" going to power ( he did brackets with his hands lol) , but in reality Arab leaders are shaking in their boots and thats reallt good. End of quote
You cant imagine what happiness there was on skype with my tunisian sisters studying with me in a learning forum , its really good but my sadness had no limits as they were telling thats its been a week they couldnt sleep, governmental snipers are scaring people all around Tunis. Each neghbourhood is watched and securised and surveyed by its own men (habitants). Prisoners has been released, but governmental forces are the ones scaring people.
One tunisian sister with us had ( after ben ali left) her brother surrounded with his car in a shoot interchanging (this word doesnt exist I know ) , we couldnt sleep; two days later ( yesterday) her sister's house was surrounded again. But Alhamdulillah nothing happened to them.
Its really good to have him leaving but now all we gotta do is pray that things calm down soon. Im really worried wallahi.
But the next one I really and highly wish to see falling down is Mubarak , even before any other arabic leader , you know Mubarak in arab means a blessing and I can tell you that yes hes a blessing upon murderers on the Israelite side, a disaster for egyptians on the egyptian side.
May Allah azza wajjal replace Tunisians with better leaders , and replace their fear with security Allahuma Ameeen.
Ben Ali was worst than Sarkozy did u know it? People who went to mosquee for example too much ( too much but less than the 5 necessay prayers) would end up jailed, hijabis couldnt go to college or school. A hijabi wouldnt walk in a street without being harrassed by policemen or anyone else. If they came to ur house and found tapes of for example Sheykh Albani or Ibn Uthaymeen , u would end up directly to jail. Scholars didnt have the right to make speeches, too much people in a mosquee was seen as a manifestation and police would come to take anyone with a beard.
You dont know what blessing it is that Ben Ali falled, only tunisians truly know.
May ALlah make their affairs easy and replace them with security soon Inshallah , Ameeeeeen
You cant imagine what happiness there was on skype with my tunisian sisters studying with me in a learning forum , its really good but my sadness had no limits as they were telling thats its been a week they couldnt sleep, governmental snipers are scaring people all around Tunis. Each neghbourhood is watched and securised and surveyed by its own men (habitants). Prisoners has been released, but governmental forces are the ones scaring people.
One tunisian sister with us had ( after ben ali left) her brother surrounded with his car in a shoot interchanging (this word doesnt exist I know ) , we couldnt sleep; two days later ( yesterday) her sister's house was surrounded again. But Alhamdulillah nothing happened to them.
Its really good to have him leaving but now all we gotta do is pray that things calm down soon. Im really worried wallahi.
But the next one I really and highly wish to see falling down is Mubarak , even before any other arabic leader , you know Mubarak in arab means a blessing and I can tell you that yes hes a blessing upon murderers on the Israelite side, a disaster for egyptians on the egyptian side.
May Allah azza wajjal replace Tunisians with better leaders , and replace their fear with security Allahuma Ameeen.
Ben Ali was worst than Sarkozy did u know it? People who went to mosquee for example too much ( too much but less than the 5 necessay prayers) would end up jailed, hijabis couldnt go to college or school. A hijabi wouldnt walk in a street without being harrassed by policemen or anyone else. If they came to ur house and found tapes of for example Sheykh Albani or Ibn Uthaymeen , u would end up directly to jail. Scholars didnt have the right to make speeches, too much people in a mosquee was seen as a manifestation and police would come to take anyone with a beard.
You dont know what blessing it is that Ben Ali falled, only tunisians truly know.
May ALlah make their affairs easy and replace them with security soon Inshallah , Ameeeeeen
fatima_bintu_islam
Active Member
All I hope if they demonstrate , is that no one get hurt; it drive me crazy to see people being beaten or killed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May Allah place security in all Islamic countries Ameeen
maro
muslimah
I am afraid i don't get your point ,Abibi
All the arab authoritiorian regimes are supported by the west . Ben Ali was not an exception
and yet , the tunisians didn't wait for the support of the west...they stood up for themselves
I's not about the west anymore ,it's about US , what we really want ,and how much are we willing to sacrifice for it
maro
muslimah
I think the change is coming and inevitable...i can't tell if the exact tunisian scenario will take place in other places...This is unpredictable . But the tunisian revolutuion certainly has a positive impact on all of us . We all now know how fragile are those regimes and that it doesn't take a miracle for them to fall
The point is that the *ignition point * differs from one place to another...so, let's wait and see
Bismillah
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maro said:
Salaam Maro,
From my understanding Ben Ali bowed down to pressure for reform within Tunisia which helped strengthen the cause for these people to continue their protests. Also I think it is significant that the military force did not attack the protesting citizens but chose to allow the coup to pass.
I think if this were attempted in some of the autocratic regimes like Hosni Mubarak or the monarchies they would not hesitate to use force to remain in power.
So I think that while this example is certainly cause for celebration and lamentation of how oppressed the Tunisians were, I don't think that such an example could be carried out without a lot of innocent Muslims being killed in the process.
Certainly, I agree that there would be no one to help the restoration of liberty certainly not the U.S.
I am curious are you Egyptian?
After years of restrictions on hijab wearing and mosque prayers, the fall of long-standing President Zine al-Abidine Ben Alis is reviving hopes for a new revival of Islam in Tunisia.
“Tunisia is emerging from a dark age that hit all political and social realms as well as religious freedoms,” Professor Noureddine Mokhtar el-Khademi told OnIslam.net
Religiosity is undoubtedly is an essential feature of the Tunisian people which was weakened over the past years.”Ben Ali fled Tunisia to Saudi Arabia last week after weeks of deadly street protests over poverty and unemployment.
Under his 23-year rule, Tunisians were banned from wearing hijab, an obligatory code of dress in Islam, in public places.
Mosques were opened shortly before the prayer time and closed immediately after the prayers.
Muslim worshippers were also banned from praying in mosques outside alloted times.
Several political and Islamic groups were banned under Ben Ali, including Ennahddha (Awakening) movement of exiled leader Rached Ghannouchi.
“(After Ben Ali’s fall), we will see now religiousity flourishing in the future,” said Khademi, a professor at the University of Ez-Zitouna’s High Institute of Religious Rules.
The signs of Islam revival were quickly noticed in Tunisia after Ben Ali.
Now, the state-run television broadcast the Adhan, the call for prayers, followed by some Hadiths of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him).
Tunisians were also reportedly flocking mosques at any time without any restrictions.
“Why should’nt mosques be open for prayers as well as for religious lessons,” Khademi asked.
“Mosques should be open to worshippers around the clock,” he suggested.
Observers also believe that hijab-clad women would be able to keep their headscarf in public places.
In 1981, then president Habib Bourguiba ratified a law banning women from wearing hijab in state offices.
Worse still, Ben Ali’s government issued in the 1980s and 1990s more restrictive enactments including the notorious 102 law, which considers hijab a “sign of extremism” and banned it.
“The coming stage in Tunisian will introduce a new era that will see more freedoms of religion, speech, and dress,” Khademi said.
Islam Revival in Post-Ben Ali Tunisia
Fled to KSA?
“Tunisia is emerging from a dark age that hit all political and social realms as well as religious freedoms,” Professor Noureddine Mokhtar el-Khademi told OnIslam.net
Religiosity is undoubtedly is an essential feature of the Tunisian people which was weakened over the past years.”Ben Ali fled Tunisia to Saudi Arabia last week after weeks of deadly street protests over poverty and unemployment.
Under his 23-year rule, Tunisians were banned from wearing hijab, an obligatory code of dress in Islam, in public places.
Mosques were opened shortly before the prayer time and closed immediately after the prayers.
Muslim worshippers were also banned from praying in mosques outside alloted times.
Several political and Islamic groups were banned under Ben Ali, including Ennahddha (Awakening) movement of exiled leader Rached Ghannouchi.
“(After Ben Ali’s fall), we will see now religiousity flourishing in the future,” said Khademi, a professor at the University of Ez-Zitouna’s High Institute of Religious Rules.
The signs of Islam revival were quickly noticed in Tunisia after Ben Ali.
Now, the state-run television broadcast the Adhan, the call for prayers, followed by some Hadiths of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him).
Tunisians were also reportedly flocking mosques at any time without any restrictions.
“Why should’nt mosques be open for prayers as well as for religious lessons,” Khademi asked.
“Mosques should be open to worshippers around the clock,” he suggested.
Observers also believe that hijab-clad women would be able to keep their headscarf in public places.
In 1981, then president Habib Bourguiba ratified a law banning women from wearing hijab in state offices.
Worse still, Ben Ali’s government issued in the 1980s and 1990s more restrictive enactments including the notorious 102 law, which considers hijab a “sign of extremism” and banned it.
“The coming stage in Tunisian will introduce a new era that will see more freedoms of religion, speech, and dress,” Khademi said.
Islam Revival in Post-Ben Ali Tunisia
Fled to KSA?