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I'm not sure which you understand less, atheism or socialism.I think I can prove it. Which one of the atheists here think freedom of religion (as a social issue) should be up there with other social issues like gun control, homosexuality, abortion and climate change? That is, you'll march in the streets should Trump decide to abolish it (satire ha ha).
Next, which one of the atheists here place socialism as important for political governance in the United States? Again, will you march in the streets if Trump decides to abolish it, i.e. socialist leaders (Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, John Kerry), thinkers (Noam Chomsky, Thom Hartmann), teachers, etc. are put in jail?
I can tell you that I would certainly protest any loss of freedom of religion, for any group.I think I can prove it. Which one of the atheists here think freedom of religion (as a social issue) should be up there with other social issues like gun control, homosexuality, abortion and climate change? That is, you'll march in the streets should Trump decide to abolish it (satire ha ha).
Next, which one of the atheists here place socialism as important for political governance in the United States? Again, will you march in the streets if Trump decides to abolish it, i.e. socialist leaders (Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, John Kerry), thinkers (Noam Chomsky, Thom Hartmann), teachers, etc. are put in jail?
I can tell you that I would certainly protest any loss of freedom of religion, for any group.
But let me ask you this hypothetical question. What would you do/think/feel if somehow there was an atheist government and they decided to put religious people on a registry?
I'm not sure which you understand less, atheism or socialism.
Hogwash.I understand Bernie Sanders is a democratic socialist and doesn't subscribe to any religion. And no one answered my second question -- which atheists here place socialism as important for political governance in the United States? If you look at the other people I listed above, they're likely in the atheist camp or sympathetic to its cause. The mainstream politicians usually will not admit to atheism. Sanders is an exception. Thus, atheism leads to communism is a valid statement.
The only think you know about these people is that they are religious. The only reason they are being put on the registry is that they are religious. Do you support the registry or not?It depends. Are the religious people my enemy, i.e. they wish to do me harm? If so, then I would think anyone would want to keep a close eye on them.
The only think you know about these people is that they are religious. The only reason they are being put on the registry is that they are religious. Do you support the registry or not?
Woah? The 911 attack was done with planes. How tall exactly did you think the wall would be?I was for the wall initially because of fears of more terrorist attacks on the scale of 9/11.
When you show me a valid argument. All you're doing now is reducing both atheism and socialism to one thing, rather than the umbrella for many beliefs and political stances it is.I usually don't debate those who do not understand nor can admit a valid argument or are debilitated with both maladies.
Denying someone their freedom of speech is just going to get you slapped with a lawsuit.
I tend to agree. As a private company, like RF, they are pretty much in control of whatever content they wish to have appear on their site.Um, no.
That's ridiculous.
A website that lets you have a free account for saying whatever you like is still a private business. They can control the content under their name as much as they like. There is no possible lawsuit here.
Woah? The 911 attack was done with planes. How tall exactly did you think the wall would be?
When you show me a valid argument. All you're doing now is reducing both atheism and socialism to one thing, rather than the umbrella for many beliefs and political stances it is.
Neverminding that being atheist doesn't mean you can't be religious (and plenty of spiritual atheists abound), neverminding that there are dozens of types of socialism ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_socialism ) so trying to paint it all in this authoritarian communism to red scare demonize socialists absurd, neverminding that there is a very large Ayn Randian movement of libertarian objectivism atheists, I reiterate:
You don't seem to understand what atheism or socialism is.
This didn't actually address my point. This isn't about my belief, it's about knowing that there are more beliefs than your apparently tiny narrow sliver of understanding. I KNOW there are a lot of different branches of Christianity. Did you know that there are a lot of different branches of socialism? Even democratic socialism?Last point first. Why am I supposed to understand what you believe in? Why the double standard? Why am I made to explain my Christianity and beliefs in capitalism when atheists and Democratic socialists are in the Democrat party?
Actually you said atheism leads to communism, which is one of the silliest things I've heard all week. Since not all atheists are secular, not all atheists are socialist, and socialism =/= communism, nor is socialism confined to secular beliefs (e.g. religious socialist parts of Scandanavia)Right now, we're discussing democratic socialism because of Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton was asked what is the difference between a socialist and a Democrat? Can you explain? What is the difference?
This didn't actually address my point. This isn't about my belief, it's about knowing that there are more beliefs than your apparently tiny narrow sliver of understanding. I KNOW there are a lot of different branches of Christianity. Did you know that there are a lot of different branches of socialism? Even democratic socialism?
Actually you said atheism leads to communism, which is one of the silliest things I've heard all week. Since not all atheists are secular, not all atheists are socialist, and socialism =/= communism, nor is socialism confined to secular beliefs (e.g. religious socialist parts of Scandanavia)
You're not asking questions, you're making silly assertions and broad, sweeping generalizations. And not even very clear ones, do you have some issue with the English language?It's not silly, it's true ha ha. All of the people I listed are atheist and democratic socialists or sympathizers and heading towards state atheism and communism. I just looked who were atheists and political and many fell into the Democrat Party. Too many to be a coincidence.
Why don't you look up who is Christian or religious and political?
Moreover, I didn't say ALL atheists are socialist heading towards communism. This has to do with being political. It has to do with being atheist and socialist as found in the Democrat Party. Are there Christian or religious and socialist or communist in the Republican Party?
More evasion of my questions. Just admit you do not know and that you're the one who is ignorant. If it's not your belief, then why are you making statements like I do not understand atheism and socialism? If you were someone who knew, then you would not have insulted me, but took the time to explain. Such hypocrisy .