metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It was, but the fragility of the Afghan forces was unanticipated.
Monday-morning quarterbacking is soooooo much easier.
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U.S. European Allies Not Happy With Biden's Afghanstain Policy
- Thread starter esmith
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Monday-morning quarterbacking is soooooo much easier.
Frankly, the Taliban needed to be taken out whether or not they supported Bib Laden. Their treatment of women and their destruction of the Buddhas at Bamayan were enough for me to say they needed to go.
But, of course, the US messed even that up.
Actually, it was very much anticipated. It was known they had very little support for the government and that the Taliban were gaining strength.
Did anyone really believe the defense forces the US trained would be able to do anything?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Such a withdrawal doesn't leave me feeling confident the planning was much more than "leave and abandon allies and those who stuck their necks out for us (again)."
Given the track record of the US, is that any surprise at all?
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
The people happened. And the Taliban just walked across the land...their land.
What government would have been supported in the region?
Maybe there was a "right" way to go about it, but certainly a heck of a lot of wrong ways.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
If it's their land they wouldn't have had to take it with violence, nor would they need extreme laws, strictness, and violence to maintain that control.
They know nothing than how to reign in fear and terror. They are no real leaders or rulers, only bullies who are highly trained and armed.
The amount of people fleeing and fearing for their lives is no suggestion or indication it is the Taliban's land.
esmith
Veteran Member
So, President Trump wanted to leave in May of this year and Biden said that was rushing it fast.
So, just what did stumbling Joe devise for a plan....Give you a hint. Not a damn thing.
I seem to remember that we did a excellent job in Japan and Germany after WWII.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
I'm sad to say that it is.....now.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
We've all been thoroughly squashed, I'm sad to say. Not just the USA.
I read part of that linked article and noticed how
' ......this week in Brussels, where officials must begin to tackle a series of unanswered questions about the future of Afghanistan .....'
You see? There are still buffoons in Europe wanting to discuss a country's future when they have been totally defeated. Nut cases.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Ah! So that is a pretty good 'tell' to show us a Tribal Politico, esmith.
I don't think we'll get a balanced view from you....just sayin'
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
For awhile it's going to be determined by who has the biggest stick. Faction and regime changes tend to happen in that area, and regional warlords usually don't go quietly.
It would be nuts for them to not discuss what happened and what the future looks like. The Taliban does, after all, likely pose an international threat.
Err....a somewhat slippery slope to stand on...
Their land?
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
I'm afraid so.
It's theirs until somebody else takes it.
Possession...... etc....?
esmith
Veteran Member
Didn't see you compaining about the names given to President Trump.
Obviously you do not have a balanced view.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yes, but that was being downplayed by all four of our presidents and their military spokesmen.
IMO, it was a HUGE mistake to occupy Afghanistan to begin with.
It's like if I went into your house because you & your spouse were arguing and then staying for 20 years to "keep the peace".
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Off you go, and find any post where I called Former President Trump any daft name.
Tribal, much?
