Dang...lately I read your posts, & think...
I want to be him when I grow up.
But then I recover, & prefer to be a jerk.
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U.S. Imposes Sweeping Human Rights Sanctions on China, Myanmar, and North Korea
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I want to be him when I grow up.
But then I recover, & prefer to be a jerk.
Virtue signalling. I think that’s what the kids call it lol
It’s nice that the US wants to address human rights abuses.
It’s increasingly seen as hypocritical, sad to say. Not to mention presumptuous. The US loves to boast and lecture the rest of the world on freedom. I think many have grown cynical and rather skeptical of such efforts due to recent events.
I’m not saying the intentions aren’t good or that US citizens are bad or anything. But increasingly I find the response to such gestures by the US these days is more along the lines of
“Pah! That’s rich.”
Or just an eyeroll. Sad.
It’s nice that the US wants to address human rights abuses.
It’s increasingly seen as hypocritical, sad to say. Not to mention presumptuous. The US loves to boast and lecture the rest of the world on freedom. I think many have grown cynical and rather skeptical of such efforts due to recent events.
I’m not saying the intentions aren’t good or that US citizens are bad or anything. But increasingly I find the response to such gestures by the US these days is more along the lines of
“Pah! That’s rich.”
Or just an eyeroll. Sad.
I was angry and I lashed out. My apologies.
Take it for granted that it has become very hard and deeply confusing to watch “our American cousins” consistently put themselves in such danger and yet we are unable to help them the way they have so often helped and shaped us. We may have joked about you and made fun of you yankies in the past, but the stakes are really high now and we all desperately want you to get it right. 
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
Doesn't this happen with literally every new POTUS?
I feel like slapping sanctions on America's traditional rivals and enemies has become effectively the US equivalent of a coronation ceremony at this point.
This line of Laika's is one of the problems that not just the US has to realized. It may be time for another democracy to take the lead, just as France did with Global Warming after Trump withdrew American membership in that agreement.
"bottom line is, if the US elects a nutjob in 2024 or in 2028, the international community has to present a united front and tell America very firmly that it can’t be the world police anymore."
"bottom line is, if the US elects a nutjob in 2024 or in 2028, the international community has to present a united front and tell America very firmly that it can’t be the world police anymore."
China needs to be restrained from it's internal extreme dictatorship and external aggressive instincts. So to me there's a good geo-political reason for this.
I agree with what I've quoted.
Yes.
The US has wonderful ideals as embodied in the preamble to the Declaration of Independence and the Great Seal to name a couple.
We've be supremely laggard in living up to those ideals but many of us do what little we can to nudge this country in that direction.
But it's true at the same time that an existential crisis is deepening between those who want a positive future and the cowards, traitors, terrorists, authoritarians who are trying to drag us down into being no better than Putin's Russia or Xi's China.
Last year the US was the 2nd most generous nation in the world which does not make headlines but reflects the attitude of the citizens The World’s Most Generous Countries In 2020
The struggle is neither easily nor quickly resolved. As John F. Kennedy put it:
Now the trumpet summons us again—not as a call to bear arms, though arms we need—not as a call to battle, though embattled we are—but a call to bear the burden of a long twilight struggle, year in and year out, “rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation”—a struggle against the common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease and war itself.
I was angry and I lashed out. My apologies.
I've gotten angry and lashed out here on RF and elsewhere. I won't repeat some of my thoughts for reasons you can accurately guess at. So I'm familiar with the emotional volcanic eruption.
You standards are too low.
Laika, we go way back, I know you don't intend to be mean spirited. But I also recognize how freaking frustrating is has to be watching this in real time. If it makes you feel any better, we feel just as frustrated and powerless.I was angry and I lashed out. My apologies.
This is one of those moments when a “United States of Europe” would come in handy.
Its not hard to deduce your reasons even from the other side of the Atlantic. You can probably hear me swearing even from that distance too.
Thanks.
Its weird over here too. We can’t seem to do anything about the dysfunction, corruption and abuse of power of Boris Johnson’s government either. Yet you kind of know whats happening in America is the main event when the history books come to be written. You do your best to concentrate on your own life and try to be productive, but keeping a cool head keeps getting harder and harder. I’m sure you know the feeling well.
ooooooh yeah
Low standards are good cuz success happens more often.You standards are too low.
Audie
Veteran Member
"Perhaps" it was just.
You were not in Hong Kong ( let alone Nanjing)
when the Japanese dropped in for a visit.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
And none of us were in Hong Kong when the UK marched in after starting a war because Chinese officials tried to shut down British drug dealers.
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A distinction often missed by ferriners....
UK =/= US