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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
nope. as long as Islamic fundamentalism is in play, there is nothing Israel can do to establish peace. nothing.
But you're OK with Jewish fundamentalism
causing massive death & destruction in Gaza.
Why are you defending Islamic fundamentalism?
Bless your heart.
You understand that this problem is much older than Israel, right?
You shouldn't be criticizing anyone else's
understanding, given your religious
fundamentalist approach to this conflict.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Right now, Israel seems to have no strategy for ending the fighting other than a mass exodus of Palestinians out of Gaza and the West Bank.
When did that become Israel's strategy?

I said seems to have, not has. I gave my reasoning in the rest of the post, which you did not quote. There are many signs that ethnic cleansing is what Israel is driving towards--making both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank so uninhabitable and dangerous for Palestinians that they will leave. It would be a "river to the sea" strategy in which Greater Israel (or Eretz Israel) is once again reunited as a Jewish state. Ben Gvir doesn't run the Israeli government, but I think he says out loud what others wish he think he should shut up about.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Not to mention notable antisemitism.
Another semitic slur from one who defends
Jews' & Christians' genocide of Muslims.

It's another example of dishonest Zionist
weaponization of language, ie, making "semite"
apply only to Jews, but not to other semites,
eg, Palestinian Muslims.
They'll use any trick, rationalization, & lie to
justify stealing Palestinians' land, killing them,
maiming them, & driving them away.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
For what it's worth, Eretz Israel means land of Israel.

And is not the Gaza Strip and the West Bank included in Eretz Israel? Israel has never relinquished control of those areas. Why else have all those illegal settlements sprung up in the West Bank? In some ways, this current war is all about those settlements, because Bibi Netanyahu has been pretty open about letting Hamas control Gaza as a means of splitting and weakening the Palestinian opposition to Israeli expansion into the West Bank. What he didn't realize was that letting Hamas have its way in Gaza would eventually blow up in Israel's face.

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces

(article published Oct 8)
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
@Copernicus :

I addressed and referenced that article back on December 11th, but thanks for sharing.

Thanks. All I could find was this thread in Middle Eastern Politics, which only Metis responded to. There wasn't anything there to contradict my point that Israel basically has no coherent policy for ending the fighting other than simply driving most of the Palestinian population into other countries. It doesn't look like it will be possible to destroy Hamas without doing that, and the spreading colonization of the West Bank will continue to its inevitable conclusion--full Israeli hegemony. The Gaza Strip is becoming unlivable for the current population there, thanks to rampant decimation and terrorization of the civilian population.

Israel-Gaza : The Netanyahu plan

 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
Thanks. All I could find was this thread in Middle Eastern Politics, which only Metis responded to. There wasn't anything there to contradict my point that Israel basically has no coherent policy for ending the fighting other than simply driving most of the Palestinian population into other countries. It doesn't look like it will be possible to destroy Hamas without doing that, and the spreading colonization of the West Bank will continue to its inevitable conclusion--full Israeli hegemony. The Gaza Strip is becoming unlivable for the current population there, thanks to rampant decimation and terrorization of the civilian population.

Israel-Gaza : The Netanyahu plan

Great observance and descriptions.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
There wasn't anything there to contradict my point that Israel basically has no coherent policy for ending the fighting other than simply driving most of the Palestinian population into other countries.

The stated policy is to eliminate the Hamas' government and destroy its capability to launch rockets and other attacks.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The stated policy is to eliminate the Hamas' government and destroy its capability to launch rockets and other attacks.
Do you believe that a stated policy is necessarily
the actual or only policy at work? If one looks at
all the deaths, dismemberments, & damage, this
is a war on Palestinians at least as much as it is
on Hamas. The stated policy by many in Israel,
including high officials is to deport them to Africa.
Israel's government even includes a convicted terrorist.
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
The stated policy is to eliminate the Hamas' government and destroy its capability to launch rockets and other attacks.
Hamas has no government. The strip cannot even supply water, let alone govern the dust.
 
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