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UN attacks Israel
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You've gotta be kidding.
No, I am quite serious. I do not see the actions of Israel as...You've gotta be kidding.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
The "Final Solution" was the decision by Hitler to exterminate all Jews living in German-held areas, and that's "genocide". Near his death, he put forth a radio broadcast stating that Jews all over the world should be exterminated, and that also is a statement of intended "genocide".
"Well-known examples of genocide include the Armenian Genocide, the Holocaust, the 1971 Bangladesh genocide, the Cambodian genocide, and more recently the Kurdish genocide, the Bosnian genocide and the Rwandan genocide." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
Palehorse
Active Member
Or we could eliminate spending to Israel?
US aid to Israel - 2015 Fact Sheet
Posted in US Aid to Israel
Total American aid to Israel since 1949 exceeds $121 billion (in non-inflation-adjusted dollars).
In 2007, President George Bush and Israel entered into a 10-year Memoradum of Understanding that would give Israel $30 billion in Foreign Military Assitance.
At the completion of this 10-year-plan in 2018, the U.S. will have given Israel $30 billion in unconditional military aid. The United States awards this grant in one lump sum, unlike other foreign recipients, which receive their payments in installments. Israel uses the interest it earns on this amount to pay down its debt to the United States, valued at $455 million in January 2013. In his March 2013 visit to Israel, President Barack Obama pledged to continue multi-year aid packages to Israel through 2028.
Under the terms of the agreement, Israel will be able to spend 26 percent of these U.S. funds on Israeli-manufactured military equipment. (This is known as Off-Shore Procurement.) This agreement, which is unique only to Israel, has allowed Israel to grow to be the world’s 7th largest exporter of military weaponry and equipment.
Israel also receives aid in other ways such as loan guarantees, refugee resettlement assistance, and reduced cost or free military equipment.
In addition to $3.1 billion per year in Foreign Military Assistance issued through the US Department of State, Israel also receives funds through the Defense Department appropriations bills for missle defense programs, like Iron Dome.
Here is a breakdown of some of US Aid to Israel:
- Israel is the largest recipient of US Foreign Military Financing.
- For FY2015, President Barack Obama’s funding request for Israel would account for more than 55% of FMF worldwide.
- Annual FMF grants account for up to 25% of Israel’s defense budget.
- Israel is allowed to use FMF to purchase weapons produced in Israel. No other country receives this benefit.
- In 2010, the US and Israel agreed to allow Israel tol purchase 19 F-35s at a cost of $2.75 billion. Israel will pay for this entirely using FMF grants supplied by the United States.
- Under negotiated agreements, Israel may purchase an additional squadron of F-35s, up to 75 aircraft, costing a total of $15.2 billion.
- As part of the deal, the U.S. has pledged to spend $4 billion purchasing equipment from Israel’s defense industries.
- In the summer of 2012, the Department of Defense and Lockheed Martin finalized a $450 million agreement to modify the baseline F-35 model to accommodate electronic warfare and munitions systems for Israel’s future F-35 squadrons.
- For FY2015, the Administration is requesting $3.1 billion in FMF to Israel and $10 million in Migration and Refugee Assistance. The Missile Defense Agency’s FY2015 request for joint U.S.- Israeli programs is $96.8 million. The Administration also is requesting $175.9 million for Iron Dome.
Passed in March 2014, the Strategic Partnership Act will (among other things):
- Authorize annual funding for a U.S.-based Joint Energy Research Center
- Authorize $3 million to be spent on research pilot programs between Israel and the Department of Homeland Security
- Require the Administration to submit biennial reports on maintaining Israel’s Qualitative Military Edge. Current law requires the Administration to report on a quadrennial basis
Palehorse,
I'd say that - across the board - the US ought to slash its military budget.
How do your stats work within the bigger picture of how the US spreads its military around the globe? Is it your contention that the US's distribution of its military budget for some reason over-supplies Israel? It might be, but I wonder what you're basing that on? If all you're looking at is the US's budget for Israel, it seems your focus is too narrow, no?
I'd say that - across the board - the US ought to slash its military budget.
How do your stats work within the bigger picture of how the US spreads its military around the globe? Is it your contention that the US's distribution of its military budget for some reason over-supplies Israel? It might be, but I wonder what you're basing that on? If all you're looking at is the US's budget for Israel, it seems your focus is too narrow, no?
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Palehorse
Active Member
I know with the war going on and all the subject can easily jump to military. But the article in this thread was on healthcare. I was trying to show all the money that we work hard for to give to Israel. If Israel can't take care of health needs, instead of taking money from the United Nations we should possibly stop giveing money to Israel so they stop making health problems worse. As far as military spending that would be a different topic. I live by the sword and die by the sword. The sword is the tongue~
I'm confused. Wasn't your post #67 all about military spending?
Palehorse
Active Member
No, , not all of it. It is also about Israeli spending in general. It was in regards to the quote jake1001 posted also. And I tried to tie it in with the genocide discussion. These sites can get very confusing. Kinda like dementia.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
If not being a slave to Israel then yes you should eliminate funding it.
rosends
Well-Known Member
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Does killing the children in the school destroyed Hamas rockets?
What about if Israel warned the UN to ask the children and the civilians to leave the school because Israel believes
that Hamas stores weapons in the school.and it'll be destroyed?
rosends
Well-Known Member
Actually, Israel did lodge complaints and the UN criticized Hamas for storing things there. They didn't ask for anyone to leave and seemed surprised when their own inspectors actually found rockets. Then they returned the rockets to Hamas.
The UN decried Israel's attack 2 weeks AFTER admitting that schools were used as shields and storehouses.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Knight of Albion
Well-Known Member
"The Arab and the Muslim nations get twice as much money as Israel"
- Ron Paul
Would you care to walk down the street, wearing a Stars and Stripes t-shirt, especially after dark, in Cairo, Gaza City, Amman, Baghdad, or Kabul?
Knight of Albion
Well-Known Member
Without US backing, the Arabs would launch another genocidal war against Israel.
And without US backing Israel would defend herself with battlefield and long-range nuclear weapons.
Truth is US foreign aid keeps the peace and for that we should all be grateful.
If anything, it ought to come with the caveat of upholding peaceful and democratic processes.
And without US backing Israel would defend herself with battlefield and long-range nuclear weapons.
Truth is US foreign aid keeps the peace and for that we should all be grateful.
If anything, it ought to come with the caveat of upholding peaceful and democratic processes.
Palehorse
Active Member
Hell no, But I will wear my dress blues when Israels war is finally done. I think prophecy of some sort says it will end in one day and all will put their weapons down.
