egroen said:
Wow, you really selective eye-sight, don't you?
Yes, it was said the Turks sold land to the jews... how this translates into the nation of Israel, well you better explain that to me.
In reality, the Turks lost WWI and they signed these lands over to the french and british in accords with their peace treaty. This is what happens in war... typically the defeated power, well... loses. Except in the case of Israel, who keeps giving back the land it conquers to the arabs.
-Erin
I have no idea how that translates into the nation of Israel, some one use that to justify the existence of Israel nation, I think.
The Turks surrendering of land to the British and French is not the same as the one quoted by some one in the other thread. That was talking about Jews buying land legally from the Turks
, perhaps the poster mistaken the buying of Palestinian arab land during British occupation period.
Anyway my contention is that the current land where Israel nation sits on, about more than 50 years ago (that is prior to 1948) has a majority of Palestinian Arab, Christian and Jews, those residence staying there for several generation. It was around the time when the Zionist movement started the mass immigration of Jews into the Palestinian land that started the conflict between the Palestinian Arab and the newly immigrated in Jewish population. And this immigration is partly caused by the Nazi persecution of the Jews living in Europe, as well as the Jews feeling persecuted living in Britain.
For how many generation have those Jews lived in their 'adopted land' before immigrating from all over the world into the land of Palestinian around the period from 1920 to 1948? When did those Jews left their motherland (Palestinian) to live in other nations? During Caesar time? During the Persian Empire time? Why were they living outside Palestinian during all those time? There were Palestinian Jews staying back and living in Palestinian land during the rule of the various conquerers of the land.
In actual fact, when the British took over the control of the Palestinian land from the Turks, the land residence was MAJORITY Palestinian Arab muslim. It was the policy of the British that allowed mass immigration of Jews into the Palestinian land that cause the present day problem. Who made all those Jews immigrating back to Palestinian land other than Nazi? If those Jews are making a good living, being treated equal in their land of adopted citizenship, some may immigrate back on religious belief reason, but I do not think there will be such a large population movement.
Even taking for granted that Jews have a passion of returning to their promised land according to their religion, this should be done peacefully. The British formulation was already biased, and when handed over to the UN, it was in a mess. The surrounding Arab nations made a mess out of everything by interferring with the internal affair of the Palestinian people. What they should have done is to have the UN stopped the mass immigration, and just hold a democratic election to let the residence of the people during that time to determine their own future, that is, they should enforce a disarmament of both the Jewish militants (there was no Israel nation then, so they can only be termed as Jewish militants, and in Bush definition, those are terrorist
as well same as the Arab militants) and the Arab militants, and we would not have the current middle east problem.
