UN peace plan

[angellous_evangellous]

Wiki is not a very accurate source.
A more pressing point, is that If you kill theirs they will kill yours.

I would not actually describe the hezbollah as terrorists, their fighting function is only a small part of their function amongst Lebonese Muslims.

They were the first in, finding homes for people, and relief as the Israelies withdrew. They had already started clearing debris and taping off dangerous areas.
hardly the action of terrorists.

It's more than adequate in this case, especially given that you do not provide something more reliable in its stead.

The Geneva conventions and international rules of war are faily well known. The UN website, I suspect is an external link in the wiki article.

 

[kai]

Hamas were not involved with firing rockets in lebanon.
they were firing them from gaza

The lebonese in general,including Christians were supporting Hisbollah's stance against the Isralie invasion. there was no coersion involved. says who Hezbollah and the Kalashnikov


As the Lebonese government hold no prisoners that would be fruitless.
They may be negotiating through the Lebonese government, but not with it.

i beg your pardon

 

[kai]

Wiki is not a very accurate source.
A more pressing point, is that If you kill theirs they will kill yours.

I would not actually describe the hezbollah as terrorists, their fighting function is only a small part of their function amongst Lebonese Muslims.
but a large part of the destruction is there responsibility

They were the first in, finding homes for people, and relief as the Israelies withdrew. They had already started clearing debris and taping off dangerous areas.
hardly the action of terrorists.

i am glad you are so well informed and its the least they can do

 

[kai]

Lebanese troops move south
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4800437.stm

 

[kai]

Annan pleads for troops

Lebanese President Emile Lahoud has praised what he called the victory of Hezbollah against Israel in a televised address to the nation.

France promises 200 engineers

It doesnt bode well
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5265840.stm

 

[croak]

"In principle to be entitled to prisoner of war status the captured service member must have conducted operations according to the laws and customs of war, e.g. be part of a chain of command, wear a uniform and bear arms openly. Thus, franc-tireurs, terrorists and spies may be excluded" - From Wiki. [emphasis mine]

The key word is 'may'. Now, Hizbullah has a chain of command, I've seen them wear uniforms, and trucks carrying multiple-missile launchers seem pretty obvious. Then again, you've got the 'laws and customs of war'. Well, Israel isn't exactly following that. Goodie, no prisoner trade.

Got to go.

 

[Booko]

i am glad you are so well informed and its the least they can do

They're getting funds from Iran, which some in the chattering class are making a lot of noise about.

I heard some jokes about it on one radio show the other day along the lines of Hezbollah being far more efficient in rebuilding than Halliburton and Bechtel.

 

[greatcalgarian]

They're getting funds from Iran, which some in the chattering class are making a lot of noise about.

I heard some jokes about it on one radio show the other day along the lines of Hezbollah being far more efficient in rebuilding than Halliburton and Bechtel.

Hisbollah is working for the people, elected by the people etc.

Halliburton and Bechtel is working for their boss, putting more money back into the pocket than actual worth of construction.

 

[kai]

Hisbollah is working for the people, elected by the people etc.

Halliburton and Bechtel is working for their boss, putting more money back into the pocket than actual worth of construction.

then why the rockets and guns ,why attack Israel , i suppose the money from Iran would not be forthcoming if it was used purely for humanitarian projects.

 

[greatcalgarian]

then why the rockets and guns ,why attack Israel , i suppose the money from Iran would not be forthcoming if it was used purely for humanitarian projects.

Hisbellah received funds from brother supports. Some are used to build road, some to build hospital, some to build school, etc etc. I do not know what fraction they used to do these good works, but obviously they have done a much better job than those American contractors paid to 'rebuild' Iraq. If those American contractors have done half as good a job like the Hisbellah, Iraqi will be welcoming them with open arms, and not suicide bombers.
Now it is undeniable that portion of the supporting funds are used by Hisbellah to train their fighter, to purchase rockets and guns. What is the purpose of doing that? Yes, I know the answer from you. The Hisbellah is inherently evil by heart, and they have no other motive or purpose of life, but to destroy Israel, they are simply terrorists, with no human brain at all. Correct?
Well, I see what they are doing is a result of the big brother 10 apples, little brother apple core analogy I gave in the other thread. So Hisbellah has to survive, this little brother knew perfectly well that there is no way of taking five apples (not to mention all the ten apples, which is analogy to destroying Israel compeltely) his rightful share (hoping UN will broker the right deal for them). So he just try to steal (arming with rockets and guns) This is for survival, not for the sinister black motive of genocide of the Jews (remember who is powerful enough to cause genocide?: Jews are persecuted in England, in the West, except perhaps in the US and China )

Okay, back to the question. If Israel has completely withdrawn from Lebanon, returned all kidnapped, arrested Lebanon citizen, and sign a proper peace treaty with Lebanon, Hisbellah will disappear from Lebanon in a split second! Tell me, why there is no Hisbellah in England? Because Israel did not bomb you and capture your citiizen, right?

 

[Ody]

The key word is 'may'. Now, Hizbullah has a chain of command, I've seen them wear uniforms, and trucks carrying multiple-missile launchers seem pretty obvious. Then again, you've got the 'laws and customs of war'. Well, Israel isn't exactly following that. Goodie, no prisoner trade.

Got to go.

Compairing the warfare tactics of Hizbollah and Israel is like compairing the Shining Path with the Germans of ww1.

 

[Ody]

Now it is undeniable that portion of the supporting funds are used by Hisbellah to train their fighter, to purchase rockets and guns. What is the purpose of doing that? Yes, I know the answer from you. The Hisbellah is inherently evil by heart, and they have no other motive or purpose of life, but to destroy Israel, they are simply terrorists, with no human brain at all. Correct?

"If they [the Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them world wide. "
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hassan_Nasrallah

 

[greatcalgarian]

"If they [the Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them world wide. "
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hassan_Nasrallah

Who has the power and capability to do the genocide of the Jews race?
Hassan Nasrallah?

Who are those persecuting Jews until they have to fled from the nations they settled down since dispersed by the Roman, and subsequently the Turks etc?

Has the Arab race actually persecuted to a very large extent, and has the Arab race being responsible for the Jews suffering prior to 1948? (perhaps once in the uprising in Palestinian in 1930s in response to the massive immigration of Jews)

Wiki is a web reasonably secretly controlled by the west, and hence you may find a lot of the quote or article, pitching the Arab against the Jews, highlighting that the Arabs have nothing better to do than to commit a genocide on the Jews.:tsk: :tsk:

 

[Ody]

Who has the power and capability to do the genocide of the Jews race?
Hassan Nasrallah?

His force showed to be capable of firing rockets, which properly armed can do extreme amounts of damage.

 

[Ody]

Who are those persecuting Jews until they have to fled from the nations they settled down since dispersed by the Roman, and subsequently the Turks etc?

Has the Arab race actually persecuted to a very large extent, (perhaps once in the uprising in Palestinian and has the Arab race being responsible for the Jews suffering prior to 1948? n 1930s in response to the massive immigration of Jews)

Don't lie, ask the Jews of Spain.

Ever wonder why Moshe ben Maimon had to flee? The Arabs have indeed persecuted the Jews to a great extent, Europeans however took it to a whole other level. The middle east still was more tolerant overall than Europe, however it really doesn't dampen the fact that Jews where forced into spasmatic forced conversions by madmen in the Arab world, and where forced into second class status under various governments which, just like thier European counterparts, made Jews pay higher taxes and where given smaller opportunities in the Civil Service if the Jews wished to carry on with thier faith.

 

[Ody]

Wiki is a web reasonably secretly controlled by the west, and hence you may find a lot of the quote or article, pitching the Arab against the Jews, highlighting that the Arabs have nothing better to do than to commit a genocide on the Jews.:tsk: :tsk:

Bull alarm,

If it was, you wouldn't be able to tell, the CIA isn't sloppy.

As for your second allegation, it is merely Libel, which I can't welcome and never accept.

However it may well indeed be justified, I suggest you detail some points that Wikipedia makes that are merely inflammatory against Islam.

Sorry for such a venomous response, but my family is basically made of news men and lawyers! :run:

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Bull alarm,

Sorry for such a venomous response, but my family is basically made of news men and lawyers! :run:

That is an unlucky combination, add in politics and you have a full house.

 

[kai]

quite a list here History Of Jews In Arab Countries:
http://www.middleeastfacts.com/Articles/history-of-jews-in-arab-countries.php

not sure of the site though

and any one know of the charter of Omar

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Compairing the warfare tactics of Hizbollah and Israel is like compairing the Shining Path with the Germans of ww1.

Which are you comparing with which.
Neither are communists, but only Israel use blitzkrieg



(A swift and violent military offensive with intensive aerial bombardment tactica.}

 

[Ody]

Neither are communists,

Maoism is communism....