Unconditional Love verses Conditional Rewards

[wandering peacefully]

Yes Einstein was a very spiritual person, that is very obvious to me.

 

[wandering peacefully]

How long do you think it would take to come up with a complete description, accepted by all, of exactly what spiritualism is? We can't get past something as simple as atheism.


But Einstein had a deep love of nature for certain.


Sorry, I still am having random difficulty in navigation.

 

[stvdv]

29 jun 2018 stvdv 014 17

I was just sort of summing up the way I saw it, not trying to convince you nor capitalize on anything you said.

It was sort of a finalizing.
If one is sincerely searching, they will find. If one finds, they will know. Each one knows what they are searching for. Each one knows what they have found. That's all.
I couldn't put it any better than how it was put in the verse (Hebrews 4:12)

I was merely expressing the way I see it - nothing more. To each his own... basically.

Thank you,
I am still too trigger sensitive. But thanks to you I learn and unlearn. My emotions sometimes take me the `wrong` way
I never read Hebrews 4 before. I understand now why you used it here. Word of God like a sharp knife. Just hold on to God's Word.
Thanks for answering so full understanding

 

[stvdv]

29 jun 2018 stvdv 014 18

How long do you think it would take to come up with a complete description, accepted by all, of exactly what spiritualism is? We can't get past something as simple as atheism.
But Einstein had a deep love of nature for certain.
Sorry, I still am having random difficulty in navigation.

For me spiritual means that I explore my important questions of Life. "Who Am I", "Why am I here", ....
Spiritual has no connection with religions. It is your own inner quest. So an atheist can be very spiritual IMO.

One on this forum calls himself "I am an advaitist Hindu and a strong atheist."

In case you think how about Einstein: See this picture, him talking with a great indian spiritual teacher

 

[YeshuaRedeemed]

Why can't the two coexist?

 

[stvdv]

Why can't the two coexist?

You missed my point.

Some said "Unconditional Love does not exist". So I showed both exist [and coexist]

People stating "God does not Love unconditional" were meaning "God grants conditional rewards".

2 different things:
"Unconditional Love" has nothing to do with sex. It is a heart to heart feeling expecting nothing in return
"Conditional Rewards" is just what it is. Has nothing to do with "Unconditional Love"

God will grant you all kinds of "Conditional Rewards", until you demand His greatest Gift "Unconditional Love"

 

[YeshuaRedeemed]

You missed my point.

Some said "Unconditional Love does not exist". So I showed both exist [and coexist]

People stating "God does not Love unconditional" were meaning "God grants conditional rewards".

2 different things:
"Unconditional Love" has nothing to do with sex. It is a heart to heart feeling expecting nothing in return
"Conditional Rewards" is just what it is. Has nothing to do with "Unconditional Love"

God will grant you all kinds of "Conditional Rewards", until you demand His greatest Gift "Unconditional Love"

I am so sorry. I have really bad ADD.

 

[stvdv]

I am so sorry. I have really bad ADD.

No need to feel sorry for that. You only replied and I only explained. And if you knew why I explained to you, you would not feel sorry at all. I want you to feel good, not sorry. You wrote "Why can't the two coexist". The first thought I had was "I wish she could feel the same in her situation [loving both men and women" [I read your post earlier today].

May God Bless us All

 

[wandering peacefully]

29 jun 2018 stvdv 014 18
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For me spiritual means that I explore my important questions of Life. "Who Am I", "Why am I here", ....
Spiritual has no connection with religions. It is your own inner quest. So an atheist can be very spiritual IMO.

Those sound like interesting questions for sure.

Searching for meaning of life sure has a long history doesn't it? So many different positions and ideas on the matter.

For me it's kind of nice just accepting the ride after the many ponderings and wanderings. A peaceful realization that my life is what I choose it to be.

 

[stvdv]

For me spiritual means that I explore my important questions of Life. "Who Am I", "Why am I here", ....
Spiritual has no connection with religions. It is your own inner quest. So an atheist can be very spiritual IMO.

Those sound like interesting questions for sure.
Searching for meaning of life sure has a long history doesn't it? So many different positions and ideas on the matter.
For me it's kind of nice just accepting the ride after the many ponderings and wanderings. A peaceful realization that my life is what I choose it to be.

Those sound like interesting questions for sure.
You say "interesting" which implies a "mental" look IMO. These questions lead you to the highest Self Realization. Much deeper than "interesting"
Searching for meaning of life sure has a long history doesn't it? So many different positions and ideas on the matter.
Yes right, search for meaning of life obviously is important to human. Agreed, so nice that there are so many ideas, all free to pick their favorite
For me it's kind of nice just accepting the ride after the many ponderings and wanderings.
A peaceful realization that my life is what I choose it to be.
Nice you found your inner peace. For me all path are equally good to reach the goal. Whichever makes people happy [not hurting others]
I also found my peace using "Who Am I" and other instructions I learned from my Master and the Scriptures.

Peace to All

 

[Dawnofhope]

adrian009,
I don’t understand where people get the idea that The Almighty God has unconditional love for His creation. Why would God send His son to earth to teach about God if it makes no difference what you do? Jesus taught that you must try hard to get through the narrow gate, because wide and spacious is the wide gate and many go through it, that leads to destruction, but narrow is the way to life, Matthew 7:13,14, Luke 13:23,24, John 17:3. Acts 4:12 says that there is only one name under heaven by which you MUST get saved. In the first century, there was The Way that was taught, Acts 9:2, 19:9,23, 22:4. This means that we all must follow He one way that Jesus and the Apostles taught.
Consider this; John 3:16 is considered to be the Gospel in Miniature, because it shows how much God loves His creation, still even in this Scripture we must believe in Jesus, and continue believing in him and his Father.
Consider this, did the flood prove that God has unconditional love, or just the opposite?? It is true that God does not want to destroy anyone, 2Peter 3:9, but all those who do not follow His son will be destroyed, John 20:30,31, 1Peter 2:21.
These same truths are mentioned also, in the Hebrew Scriptures. Consider Deuteronomy 7:9,10, 30:16-19. How will destroy all who worship false Gods, Jeremiah 10:10-15, Psalms 115:2-8.
Now, it seems to be true that some that are living at the time that Jesus returns to earth, that have not had the opportunity to learn about God and His son Jesus, will live on through the Great Tribulation. This group will be very small compared to the ones destroyed, Revelation 7:14, Romans 2:13-16, 9:15,18, Zephaniah 1:14-18. Jeremiah 25:27-38, is what is in store for almost all who do not Know God and do not obey the Gospel of our lord Jesus, 2Thessalonians 1:6-10.

My comments about at the start of the thread were a parody and not to be taken literally.

I agree that God's love is not unconditional and He expects us to believe in Him and follow His Teachings.

In regards the return of Christ, the Baha'is have a different theology from the JWs.