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Understanding Cosmology (Post 1)

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
This is true, we get enough haters so ignore it is from religious quaters. Saves a lot of hassle
I do not hate you. quite the contrary, all atheists are as much an expression of Universal Existence/God as I am, so I do not hate, but love you.

As the expression goes, "do not love the belief, but love the believer".
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I do not hate you. quite the contrary, all atheists are as much an expression of Universal Existence/God as I am, so I do not hate, but love you.

As the expression goes, "do not love the belief, but love the believer".
Hating a belief is about as useful as hating math.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Nothing new is in the heavens above or the earth below. The billions of years of the history of the universe, the sun and the earth, and the evolution of life and humanity.

Though our future on earth is a bit sketchy if we do not take better care of the earth,
See, I don't hate your belief, but it is not reality.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Not my belief it is science. We cannot make our own reality.
I don't like to argue, but it is your belief in a scientific explanation, I like science, but I understand it is in a state of evolution, ie., not complete. Absolute reality is what it is.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I don't like to argue, but it is your belief in a scientific explanation, I like science, but I understand it is in a state of evolution, ie., not complete. Absolute reality is what it is.

You don't like to argue? You are arguing.

Science is not ever complete or absolute. Science is consistent and reliable. Science advances with new knowledge, but science does not change as much as want to see it change. It more reflects your belief as complete and absolute.

Yes, reality is what it is, but we cannot create reality based on what we believe.
 
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Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
You don't like to argue? You are arguing.

Science is not ever complete or absolute. It more reflects your belief as complete and absolute.

Yes, reality is what it is, but we cannot create reality based on what we believe.
Let's not argue about arguing, ok!

I don't do belief in the context of contemporary scientific theory as it has an atheistic bias, I consider it and appreciate it, but there is so much more.

Precisely, and a lot of the scientific positions on cosmology require belief, reality is on the other side of the belief/theory.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Let's not argue about arguing, ok!

I don't do belief in the context of contemporary scientific theory as it has an atheistic bias, I consider it and appreciate it, but there is so much more.

Precisely, and a lot of the scientific positions on cosmology require belief, reality is on the other side of the belief/theory.

first problem, Methodological Naturalism is neutral concerning religious belief. I am atheist and a scientist with over fifty years experience, and I accept science concerning the nature of our physical existence, and believe in God's Creation in harmony with science.

No, scientific knowledge of cosmology is not based on belief by definition. It is based on the consistent objective verifiable evidence.

You are going to be very disappointed with the reality of the evolving knowledge of science.
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
first problem, Methodological Naturalism is neutral concerning religious belief. I am atheist and a scientist with over fifty years experience, and I accept science concerning the nature of our physical existence, and believe in God's Creation in harmony with science.

No, scientific knowledge of cosmology is not based on belief by definition. It is based on the consistent objective verifiable evidence.

You are going to be very disappointed with the reality of the evolving knowledge of science.
Well that's a start, glad to hear you are not an atheist, not that I have anything personal against atheists, but it is somewhat sad that their present closed mind prevents them from transcending their limitations, and realizing the open ended reality on the other side.

Of course it is, atheistic science believes there was a beginning to the Cosmos, they believe the Cosmos is not conscious, etc..

News alert, an eternal Cosmos is complete, absolute reality does not evolve, only parts evolve to learn what and who they really are, in an eternal process.
 
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