Unrestricted Immigration

[Kirran]

That would depend. If they had any communication with terrorists or show any animocity towards the US, then no. But, if they were being held for absolutely no reason, we kind of owe them that much.

Fair play. Hats off.

 

[Imaginary_Friends]

As to the topic of the title, are you for or against unrestricted immigration?
Can you give reasons as to why?

This thread shares the same semblance as a thread done on multiculturalism not long ago. After 15+ pages of patting each other on the back on how enlightened they are, the only discernible benefit was extensive culinary choices.

Multiculturalism:Your Opinion | Page 14 | ReligiousForums.com

Everyone has commented on the challenges that immigration poses, no one has commented on any benefits immigration in any form, unrestricted or otherwise. I contend any gains my immigration are completely nullified by the costs literally and logistically. I am against all immigration and support deportation of the current illegal blight we have now. (in USA)

Can it not be to provide help to those who need it?

As counter intuitive as it sounds, I actually blame Liberals for the famine that is prevalent in Africa by sending food aid. They are just not bright enough not to outbreed the carrying capacity of the land they occupy.

The biggest help one can provide is contraceptives. In regard to the birth rates you mentioned are polarized. The developed world needs to increase those rates and the 3rd world needs to decrease theirs.

 

[Imaginary_Friends]

I can only speak for the US, in part but cautiously for some other countries such as India, UK, Australia and Canada. Probably not at all for others ...

... though the invasion of jihadee types into the EU is a big problem.

But just speaking for the US, it is my observation (and I will be proven historically accurate) what we have right NOW (verse the past) is not an unrestricted immigration problem but favortism for one demographic - illiterate "Hispanics" from South of the Border who most cannot even read or write in their own language and many are gang bangers - over all other peoples of the world.

It isn't immigration nor even unrestricted immigration. It is a purposeful and planned invasion of one demographic, favortism for that demographic that will be paid to invade and be paid to vote Democrat because they are the exact illiterate, fascist oriented suckers of "free bread" politics, that the Democrats want to turn the demographics of Texas from Red to Blue and thus steal the 2016 electoral college for the Presidency via the invading hordes in the millions of these "hispanic" foreigners as part of what is voter fraud.

I support unrestricted immigration - which can only be contribution based immigration open to the entire world equally and not having one demographic with the luck of being camped right on the southern border enmass horde in and take "all the seats" and resouces away from everyone else in the world such that there is now no room on the boat. That means to be fair to all, you cannot allow one demographic to cut in line shoving everyone else aside and trampling over them to die under their feet, you must secure the southern border, then let others from all over the world go through actual immigration which means health checks and assess what contrubutiona they will bring to diversity instead of this NON-immigration and favortism of illegal aliens invading and over running and trampling to death all others so that the Democrats can try and save even more loss in 2016 by turning Texas into Mexico for a few more million votes for whatever government class despot they are running now.

Personally, I want to offset these hordes of illiterates carrying disease and importng poverty and low wages with millions of Russians, Hungarians, more Japanese if possible, Indians, maybe some Middle Eastern, more Jews, and such. Secure the border now, and stop Obama's illegal and unconstitutional and despot executive orders and actions.

By the way, India has it's own problems as well with illegal aliens from Bangladesh coming into West Bengal, being used in voter fraud by some politicians, many of these Bangladeshi illegal aliens who supposedly "do the jobs Indians won't do" are nothing but car theives and many are Islamic terrorists.

I concur. The voting process has been exploited by the degenerate Liberal element. They are literally undermining America's sovereignty, national security and identity by allowing this invasion, masquerading as immigration just to procure votes. I think what we should do is change the voting process that has issues properly taxed on the individual level and passed on the popular level. So instead of a president you'd vote and be additionally taxed on your beliefs.

(Sample voting booth)
Push all that apply;

0 Abortion ( +2% FICA tax to compensate for the potential tax payers that otherwise would exist)
0 War for Israel [Iraq,ect] ( +4% Federal tax to fund military machine and your family is first pick in conscription lotteries)
0 Immigration (+3% to pay for the new schools and benefits they consume)


It's not a complete list but you get the gist. It would be a process that holds people accountable for the cause and effect of their beliefs instead of repercussion free, feel good drivel. Although I think its unlikely its a policy that President Swisher Sweet would implement.

 

[Shad]

This thread shares the same semblance as a thread done on multiculturalism not long ago. After 15+ pages of patting each other on the back on how enlightened they are, the only discernible benefit was extensive culinary choices.

Multiculturalism:Your Opinion | Page 14 | ReligiousForums.com

Everyone has commented on the challenges that immigration poses, no one has commented on any benefits immigration in any form, unrestricted or otherwise. I contend any gains my immigration are completely nullified by the costs literally and logistically. I am against all immigration and support deportation of the current illegal blight we have now. (in USA)



As counter intuitive as it sounds, I actually blame Liberals for the famine that is prevalent in Africa by sending food aid. They are just not bright enough not to outbreed the carrying capacity of the land they occupy.

The biggest help one can provide is contraceptives. In regard to the birth rates you mentioned are polarized. The developed world needs to increase those rates and the 3rd world needs to decrease theirs.

The brain drain of Europe pre/post WW2 benefited America greatly. Skilled immigrant already have an education. Many apply for work visas so already fulfill job positions which the citizens of a nation lacks or is unable to produce.

 

[Ultimatum]

This thread shares the same semblance as a thread done on multiculturalism not long ago. After 15+ pages of patting each other on the back on how enlightened they are, the only discernible benefit was extensive culinary choices.

Multiculturalism:Your Opinion | Page 14 | ReligiousForums.com

The problem isn't multiculturalism, as this doesn't in itself harm or really benefit an economy, but it's the problem of integration. Immigrants MUST integrate, lest radicalization becomes ever-more widespread.

Everyone has commented on the challenges that immigration poses, no one has commented on any benefits immigration in any form, unrestricted or otherwise. I contend any gains my immigration are completely nullified by the costs literally and logistically.

Immigration is fine. In fact, it's beneficial to a country like the UK. Our public services would collapse without it.
Mass-immigration, uncontrolled, is not fine--it's a broken system propped up by the emotional mechanism of political correctness.

I am against all immigration and support deportation of the current illegal blight we have now. (in USA)

So you're against rich businessmen/women who would come into the country to invest? I'm honestly for any immigrant who is able to sustain himself in society without welfare payment/benefit. And the deportation of illegal immigrants is what I, and the political party I support, am absolutely for.

As counter intuitive as it sounds, I actually blame Liberals for the famine that is prevalent in Africa by sending food aid.

I blame Liberals for most things. Naturally, the principles make sense. Societally and progressively, they're ridiculous.

The biggest help one can provide is contraceptives. In regard to the birth rates you mentioned are polarized. The developed world needs to increase those rates and the 3rd world needs to decrease theirs.

This would be beaten down by the political correctness mechanism if you were to talk about this in public. But over consumption is a true problem that needs addressing. <---- Actually that would make a good thread topic.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Also release two red kangaroos in Africa, which are drought resistant, and stop the famines that regularly affect the African People.

Introducing a foreign species like that has such a high chance of causing massive destructive and devastating consequences to the local ecosystem that it just is not worth it. There are always unforeseen consequences to such introductions, and often times the result is their is a new problem to contend with, and the new problem is worse and more widespread than the original problem.

 

[Tiapan]

Introducing a foreign species like that has such a high chance of causing massive destructive and devastating consequences to the local ecosystem that it just is not worth it. There are always unforeseen consequences to such introductions, and often times the result is their is a new problem to contend with, and the new problem is worse and more widespread than the original problem.

But not always, sure you have to do the study and so far its looking pretty good comparatively. Back to you.

 

[Kirran]

But not always, sure you have to do the study and so far its looking pretty good comparatively. Back to you.

I'd be interested to see such a study. Can you cite?