Unwholesome and impure sex

[Skwim]

I've never regarded sex as being wholesome or unwholesome, or pure or impure; however, In another thread the following dialog took place:

ME: "What amuses me are people who delight in engaging in certain activities, but become upset, even enraged, when its suggested their idols do the same."

REPLY:The unchecked proliferation of STDs would account for a lot of that "sex is dirty" attitude. How much of the sex being had in the world today could be described as wholesome? Pure?
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So evidently sex can be "DIRTY," ie. unwholesome, and/or impure. The author of the question is a Christian, therefore I assume this is probably a Christian based notion.

So,

Unwholesome and impure sex: what is it and why is it unwholesome and impure?

Anyone?
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[Rakhel]

The only time I could see sex being unwholesome is when it involves force or an adult taking advantage of a child. Other than that, I don't see an issue.

 

[Tarheeler]

The only time I could see sex being unwholesome is when it involves force or an adult taking advantage of a child. Other than that, I don't see an issue.

I think that would definitely be one example.

I'd call any act that either hurts or takes advance of someone to be unwholesome as well acts that leaves one feeling ashamed or uncomfortable.

Sex should be a good thing.

 

[Rakhel]

I think that would definitely be one example.

I'd call any act that either hurts or takes advance of someone to be unwholesome as well acts that leaves one feeling ashamed or uncomfortable.

Sex should be a good thing.

Yeah I can agree with that. but now that I think about it, I would also consider bestiality a BIG impure act.

 

[Skwim]

Rakhel and Tarheeler, thanks for your replies. Considering how I first phrased my OP I think you're right on; however, because I misled you both as to the nature of the sex, as being possibly illegal and non-consensual, I've reworded it to better reflect the "dirty" aspect I had in mind.

And thanks again guys. I appreciate your good replies.

 

[LuisDantas]

I guess sex is not wholesome and pure when it puts one's physical and/or emotional health at risk.

With specific exceptions, I don't think bestiality would be one example, although pedophily certainly is. So is rape, of course.

As a rule, sex is unhealthy when it involves false promises and pretenses. Having sex makes one quite vulnerable and can lead to pain later on. It is not always intentional either.

 

[Rakhel]

Luis,
I answered before Skwim modified the OP. So until I can provide an answer to the modified OP, please ignore what I have already posted.

 

[Madhuri]

I've never regarded sex as being wholesome or unwholesome, or pure or impure; however, In another thread the following dialog took place:

ME: "What amuses me are people who delight in engaging in certain activities, but become upset, even enraged, when its suggested their idols do the same."

REPLY:The unchecked proliferation of STDs would account for a lot of that "sex is dirty" attitude. How much of the sex being had in the world today could be described as wholesome? Pure?
​

So evidently sex can be "DIRTY," ie. unwholesome, and/or impure. The author of the question is a Christian, therefore I assume this is probably a Christian based notion.

So,

Unwholesome and impure sex: what is it and why is it unwholesome and impure?

Anyone?
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I speak from a liberal Hindu (and influenced by Western culture) perspective.

I do not think that any act is always pure or impure or whatever. Intention and consciousness dictates how 'good' or 'bad' something is. If you are having sex out of lust, then it is less 'pure' than sex out of love. Missionary style rape, kept clean and simple, is always going to be worse than messy, animal style consensual sex (for example).

In Hinduism, there is emphasis on controlling the senses. There is therefore encouragement to either abstain from sex (if the person is capable of this without becoming repressed) or having sex with the person you love (and in the spirit of love). Lust, the lack of control of the mind and sense, leads to 'impurity'.

(I us ' ' because pure/impure is your word of choice, and probably there is a more appropriate word to use in a Hindu context).

 

[dust1n]

I thought all sex was 100% sex.

 

[Father Heathen]

if everyone involved are consenting and responsible adults, then it should be "wholesome" enough. What exactly is the criteria for "wholesome", anyway?

 

[dust1n]

if everyone involved are consenting and responsible adults, then it should be "wholesome" enough. What exactly is the criteria for "wholesome", anyway?

If we go by this, you may be right.


whole·some / ˈhōlsəm/ • adj. conducive to or suggestive of good health and physical well-being: the food is plentiful and very wholesome. ∎ conducive to or promoting moral well-being: good wholesome fun.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O999-wholesome.html

There's a lot of subjective conditions for application, and I don't know that any sex guarantees to be conducive to or promoting moral well-being. But, I think it is safe to assume that rape, intentional spreading of STD's, child relations (unless amongst themselves of course) or incest would be a hinderance to good health and physical well-being, and also that a frequent sex life is actually conducive to or suggestive of it. Really, it is healthy to have sex often, so really when the parents say, "Go have some wholesome fun, kids..."

 

[Midnight Pete]

The only time I could see sex being unwholesome is when it involves force or an adult taking advantage of a child. Other than that, I don't see an issue.

What about adultery? Or rape?

 

[Rakhel]

What about adultery? Or rape?

Force involves rape adultery is not forced. coerced maybe, sometimes, but not forced.

Oh and before someone else comes along and can't understand what I am saying.

Forcing someone to have sex includes rape. It includes making someone do something they will regret. It includes a husband forcing his wife to have sex with him or with his buddies, whether or not money is involved.

Taking advantage of a child involved pedophilia, and in some cases statutory rape, but not all cases. Taking advantage involves telling someone who doesn't, or cannot, understand what is happening to their body that sex is love.
And while this may,to an extent, be true, for an adult to tell a, sometimes five year old child that you are about to have sex with them because you love them, is absolutely wrong, and not wholesome.
People involved in Swinger's groups or couples involved in polyandrous relationships are not committing adultery. Adultery only happens when one member of a monogamous relationship wants to be in a polyandrous relationship without the consent of his/her spouse.

I certainly hope that was clear enough

 

[Midnight Pete]

Force involves rape adultery is not forced. coerced maybe, sometimes, but not forced.

Oh and before someone else comes along and can't understand what I am saying.

Forcing someone to have sex includes rape. It includes making someone do something they will regret. It includes a husband forcing his wife to have sex with him or with his buddies, whether or not money is involved.

Taking advantage of a child involved pedophilia, and in some cases statutory rape, but not all cases. Taking advantage involves telling someone who doesn't, or cannot, understand what is happening to their body that sex is love.
And while this may,to an extent, be true, for an adult to tell a, sometimes five year old child that you are about to have sex with them because you love them, is absolutely wrong, and not wholesome.
People involved in Swinger's groups or couples involved in polyandrous relationships are not committing adultery. Adultery only happens when one member of a monogamous relationship wants to be in a polyandrous relationship without the consent of his/her spouse.

I certainly hope that was clear enough

You are certainly more liberal than I am.

 

[Sunstone]

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Those are quaint terms.

 

[LuisDantas]

Adultery only happens when one member of a monogamous relationship wants to be in a polyandrous relationship without the consent of his/her spouse.

I take it that you mean polyamorous, not polyandrous, right?

 

[Rakhel]

I take it that you mean polyamorous, not polyandrous, right?

LOL yes but my spelling is atrocious. i was trying to spell polyamorous(which is seems the computer doesn't like) and picked polyandrous, because it looked close enough

 

[end of time]

Having sex with many different people always leads down the road of hurt. I know from experience!

 

[RomCat]

I believe that more people go to Hell because of
sexual sin than any other type of sin.

 

[zenzero]

Friends,

unWHOLESOME sex

SOME HOLE sex????

Love & rgds