Okay, I get it. I just make a little more allowance for the fact that most of us are "lesser creatures." Being one, I have to.
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US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons
- Thread starter Stevicus
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I wish them luck on getting pardoned. I actually plan to write Trump about my circumstances in hopes he will pardon me, as I would suspect he would be understanding.
Wandering Monk
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Possible problems for Trump to pardon the 'hostages.'
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Okay, I get it. I just make a little more allowance for the fact that most of us are "lesser creatures." Being one, I have to.
But Canadian lesser creatures are different. Speaking of which:
“IT WILL HAVE BLOOD, THEY SAY; BLOOD WILL HAVE BLOOD.”
Three witches speak a prophecy of power to an ambitious warrior. When the prophecies prove true and the bodies pile up, where lies the blame: in prophecy, fate or Macbeth’s own secret desires? What alignment of stars guides the anti-hero Macbeth’s bloody hand? This bold reimagining of Shakespeare’s darkest tragedy by visionary director Robert Lepage sets the uncanny action during the Quebec Biker War of the 1990s. [source]
Yes, I know.
Good luck.
Thanks!
Nuthin beats over-coming difficulty,
& getting one's life in order.
Still not sure I'll see that one -- I've seen so many great Macbeths over the last several years, including Colm Feore at Stratford. But you never know -- haven't nailed down how I want to enjoy the season next year.
Heyo
Veteran Member
That's why the Dems lost. They thought they were better than Trump and didn't need to use the new rules Trump made for himself to win. And, because it worked so fine, Trump will make more new rules, which he thinks will only apply to him - because Dems won't use them.
The jury's still out, but as it stands, inciting an insurrection is A-OK.
Acting on it is not - as of now, but that is going to change if the rioters get a pardon.
Of course, my suggestion to stage a riot was hyperbole, but it was to show how far Trump and his supporters have deviated from the laws and rules without getting corrected by the judiciary or the voters. The rules have changed.
The US was the most criminal country in the world even before Trump, but now it has become a majority criminal country. When given the choice between a crook and a cop, they choose the crook. That is the current reality. You have to adapt or go extinct.
John D. Brey
Well-Known Member
John D. Brey
Well-Known Member
Sometimes one's preconceived notions and errant worldviews must become extinct with a little help from an unexpected dose of reality.
John
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Nope. That would be incredibly irresponsible.
Guitar's Cry
Disciple of Pan
Pardon me. But are you saying they'll have to wait for a Trump pardon.
John
Likely, but not because Democrats are stupid. It's because they either are, or pretend, to be responsible.
We've picked the week, reserved the hotel, and selected and scheduled the (7) plays we intend to see. We'll be purchasing our tickets at noon Eastern this Thursday.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I would pardon you. Even if you're a Trump supporter. I'm diabolical like that.
John D. Brey
Well-Known Member
You bring up an interesting concept by conceiving of a form of responsibility that's stupid. It's almost an oxymoron.
John
Very kind of you.
I think a lot of them are in for a rude awakening. A pardon doesn't erase the offense or the finding of guilt; it just removes the criminal punishment.
US Capitol rioters await Trump pardons
DONALD Trump supporters who were charged with storming the US Capitol are now expecting pardons from the incoming American president, who has lauded them as “patriots” and “political prisoners.” Read more at The Business Times.www.businesstimes.com.sg
Trump has said he would pardon them, so now they're all lining up and ready for their pardons.
I get why being out of prison is preferable to being in prison, but they're still going to have civil liability to deal with. A lot of these people may find themselves bankrupt and unemployable.
And AFAICT, a pardoned offense can still get considered as part of their prior criminal history if they commit any more crimes in future.