US Govt: Zionists must end illegal occupation for peace

[faroukfarouk]

Yeah the majority of Israeli Jews are former refugees or descendants of said refugees from Arab/Muslim countries who drove them out of their homes.
You know what Israel did? They integrated them.

Yes and they gave the refugees free land stolen from the Palestinians.

Yes of course it does, always been that way. And the Arab countries would do nothing else.
Three years prior to the first war between Israel and the Arab countries entire Eastern Europe was changed through wars. People lost their homes and countries lost their minorities who were forcefully resettled.
It was the biggest population transfer since the Germanic migration period.

So you admit that the Jews are thieves living on stolen property.

1948 I was -37 years old.
Anyway its ridiculous to believe that all Palestinians who don't live in Israel or the Westbank/Gaza were expelled. That's totally not how wars have ever worked.

Now that makes you......let see ....104 years old.
God did say i will reverse you in creation.
Tks old man i had enough.

 

[faroukfarouk]

I can, if you like, cite all sorts of international law on the distinction between occupied and disputed. Bottom line, there is no other sovereign power claiming control so the land cannot be legally occupied. And if in disputed territories treatment cannot be classified as apartheid. Israeli citizens all have rights. In an apartheid state are there minority members of parliament or the supreme court? If you'd like, I can cite actual examples of apartheid in the mideast, like highways for Muslims only.

You can try as hard as you want but all you do is make a fool of yourself.The International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly the United Nations Security Council and the Israeli judiciary are all confirming that the land is occupied territory but you juggling with words and calling it disputed territories.So far as sovereign power is concerned the land belong to the people of Palestine and as such the occupier has no right to build settlements on this land.
So far as apartheid is concerned the treatment within the settlements between Jews and Palestinians are discriminatory and that is nothing but apartheid.
Now if you are trying to justify apartheid within the settlements to another country then that is a cheap argument.

 

[rosends]

You can try as hard as you want but all you do is make a fool of yourself.The International Court of Justice, the UN General Assembly the United Nations Security Council and the Israeli judiciary are all confirming that the land is occupied territory but you juggling with words and calling it disputed territories.So far as sovereign power is concerned the land belong to the people of Palestine and as such the occupier has no right to build settlements on this land.
So far as apartheid is concerned the treatment within the settlements between Jews and Palestinians are discriminatory and that is nothing but apartheid.
Now if you are trying to justify apartheid within the settlements to another country then that is a cheap argument.

The people of Palestine? You mean those who worked on the newspaper "The Palestine Post"? If you want to discuss laws you have to know the words. You do not know the words.
Here. Feel free not to read it.
From "Occupied Territories" to "Disputed Territories," byDore Gold

and some information about actual apartheid practices

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205147146930979

 

[Flankerl]

Yes and they gave the refugees free land stolen from the Palestinians.


So you admit that the Jews are thieves living on stolen property.


Now that makes you......let see ....104 years old.
God did say i will reverse you in creation.
Tks old man i had enough.

Get back to me when you learn about negative numbers in 5th grade.

 

[metis]

The most moral military in the World???????????????????????????????

They had no mercy on anything that moved.

A military that has no mercy for animals.

Yes, war is nasty, and one could easily post pictures of Israeli civilians that have been slaughtered by suicide bombers and missiles and rockets. However, I don't take any pride whatsoever in seeing people killed, nor pictures of people killed, as I think that's rather sadistic.

The solution is easy, but since you won't acknowledge it, the strong impression is just that you want to see many more people killed. All Hamas and el-Fatah have to do is to stop the attacks, recognize the state if Israel, and I can guarantee you there will be peace. If you are unwilling to accept that, then more Palestinians and others will be killed because people like you fail to recognize that you aren't going to achieve peace by attacking civilians.

So, do you want peace? Do you think that Hamas and el-Fatah should stop the killing, recognize the state of Israel, and then sit down and negotiate with the Israelis? Yes or no, and I'll assume no answer or switching the subject, as you all too frequently do, means no?

 

[LuisDantas]

Check your facts. Arafat was not killed.

Sorry and thanks. I should have checked.

 

[faroukfarouk]

Yes, war is nasty, and one could easily post pictures of Israeli civilians that have been slaughtered by suicide bombers and missiles and rockets. However, I don't take any pride whatsoever in seeing people killed, nor pictures of people killed, as I think that's rather sadistic.
The solution is easy, but since you won't acknowledge it, the strong impression is just that you want to see many more people killed. All Hamas and el-Fatah have to do is to stop the attacks, recognize the state if Israel, and I can guarantee you there will be peace. If you are unwilling to accept that, then more Palestinians and others will be killed because people like you fail to recognize that you aren't going to achieve peace by attacking civilians.
So, do you want peace? Do you think that Hamas and el-Fatah should stop the killing, recognize the state of Israel, and then sit down and negotiate with the Israelis? Yes or no, and I'll assume no answer or switching the subject, as you all too frequently do, means no?

Yes i am for peace 100%.
To recognize Israeli as a State is not a problem.
The problem is weather Israel will give back all occupied territory,including Jerusalem, for a lasting peace.
At present there is no willingness from the Israeli side.

 

[metis]

Yes i am for peace 100%.
To recognize Israeli as a State is not a problem.
The problem is weather Israel will give back all occupied territory,including Jerusalem, for a lasting peace.
At present there is no willingness from the Israeli side.

Israel will never give Jerusalem back for reasons already covered. The Arabs had their chance at a peaceful and neutral Jerusalem and blew it, so Israel will simply never put themselves in harm's way again.

And let me remind you that it was Abbas who walked away from the negotiating table last, not the Israelis. And then there's the simple fact that you avoid and that is Hamas has made it very clear that there cannot and will not be peace negotiations between them and the Israelis, and that the only solution to them is the destruction of Israel.

BTW, if the official recognition of Israel is "not a problem", then why haven't the Palestinians done it?

 

[rosends]

BTW, if the official recognition of Israel is "not a problem", then why haven't the Palestinians done it?

People don't want to recognize Israel until no one can recognize Israel.

 

[RedDragon94]

Honestly, none of you deserve a state. You should be a UN Mandate until you learn not to smear your own **** on the walls.

I smiled when I saw this.