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Vampires

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
If you are to believe the misunderstood, relic, role playing concept of vampirism then, yes I would agree with the current posts, yet . . . true vampires are nothing like that.
Mathematically? This holds no water within my explanation of vampirism if anyone cares to read it (earlier post).
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
If you are to believe the misunderstood, relic, role playing concept of vampirism then, yes I would agree with the current posts, yet . . . true vampires are nothing like that.
Mathematically? This holds no water within my explanation of vampirism if anyone cares to read it (earlier post).
I've read your previous post and I can agree with this part:
EtuMalku said:
And of course there are the many that are delusional
...but little else.
 

kai

ragamuffin
ahhh nothing like the feeling of existential despair to bring on the night er------sorry just thinking out loud ,

No i dont beleive in vampires.
 

Comicaze247

See the previous line
I don't believe in them, but I'd be interested to talk with someone who claimed to be one.
I second that! :D

And I believe in the possibility. I mean, I believe that all myths and legends had a basis in the real world. There had to be something to inspire the stories. Loch Ness Monster, Big Foot, Vampires, etc.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
I haven't seen any convincing evidence for the existence of vampires as of yet. I'd be interested if anybody had some to show me, though.
 

Troublemane

Well-Known Member
Agreed. The existence of vampires as commonly depicted is mathematically impossible:



Vampires a Mathematical Impossibility, Scientist Says | LiveScience

That requires the assumption that each time a vampire bites someone they become a vampire. But as far as i know, the only thing that happens is you get weak. A person doesnt become a vampire until you drink the Vampire's blood....at least thats how it goes in the movies. :D

Anyway, we all know the real bloodsuckers are in Washington DC...
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
That requires the assumption that each time a vampire bites someone they become a vampire. But as far as i know, the only thing that happens is you get weak. A person doesnt become a vampire until you drink the Vampire's blood....at least thats how it goes in the movies. :D.

I thought the Embrace was started ether by Ann Rice or Whitewolf(in the Vampire story telling game). And that's how it got there in the movies?
 

Smoke

Done here.
Which kind?
Yeah, really. Obviously, there are people who call themselves vampires and engage in what they think are vampiric activities, but I find those people interesting only to the extent they're a little annoying.

I don't believe in "real" vampires, i.e., super-powerful immortals who feed on blood. I always thought I'd like to be one, though. Living forever, enjoying preternatural powers and living beyond the constraints of society is pretty good work if you can get it. If such vampires existed and I had the chance to be one, I'd jump at it. I just hope feeding on politicians, dictators, and televangelists wouldn't make me sick.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
That requires the assumption that each time a vampire bites someone they become a vampire. But as far as i know, the only thing that happens is you get weak. A person doesn't become a vampire until you drink the Vampire's blood....at least that's how it goes in the movies. :D

Anyway, we all know the real bloodsuckers are in Washington DC...
Indeed they are:bow:

The transfiguration from man to vampire is nothing like the Hollywood concept, which was set into motion by Bram Stoker and much folk lore throughout history.

Rather, it involves the destruction of the human soul and the creation of the vampiric soul in its place.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Yeah, really. Obviously, there are people who call themselves vampires and engage in what they think are vampiric activities, but I find those people interesting only to the extent they're a little annoying.

I don't believe in "real" vampires, i.e., super-powerful immortals who feed on blood. I always thought I'd like to be one, though. Living forever, enjoying preternatural powers and living beyond the constraints of society is pretty good work if you can get it. If such vampires existed and I had the chance to be one, I'd jump at it. I just hope feeding on politicians, dictators, and televangelists wouldn't make me sick.
The only thing immortal is the soul, not the physical.
It is not the blood that is needed but rather the life force / prana / Qi / Chi etc.
They really don't have supernatural powers and more over they are more likely to be living 'in' the constraints of society.
Knowing that your God / Divine connected soul must be severed and destroyed, then a vampiric soul created in its place . . . would you still be interested in becoming one?
 

Smoke

Done here.
Knowing that your God / Divine connected soul must be severed and destroyed, then a vampiric soul created in its place . . . would you still be interested in becoming one?
I don't believe in god or the divine, or in the soul as such, so all that's really meaningless to me. Without the immortality and the preternatural powers, the whole thing loses its appeal to me, anyway.
 

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
I should probably clarify that I'm interested in any evidence anybody had for "real" vampires, not people who dress up like one.

Proving the existence of vampires is a daunting challenge to say the least.
One cannot even prove that prana / life force / chi etc. exists . . . which is what the vampire feeds on.
Though scientists have called this life force orgone, it is still unfounded in fact.
The soul for that matter has yet to be proven to exist

There has been research and experiments such as Kirlian photography that did show an increase in the aura of a vampire and the decrease of the aura of a person the vampire was feeding from . . . but again this was at best controversial in method.

Even meeting a vampire and allowing them to drain you proves nothing more than something happened to you energy-wise of which could be a number of psychological reasons behind the occurrence.
 

Nepenthe

Tu Stultus Es
Proving the existence of vampires is a daunting challenge to say the least.
One cannot even prove that prana / life force / chi etc. exists . . . which is what the vampire feeds on.
Though scientists have called this life force orgone, it is still unfounded in fact.
The soul for that matter has yet to be proven to exist

There has been research and experiments such as Kirlian photography that did show an increase in the aura of a vampire and the decrease of the aura of a person the vampire was feeding from . . . but again this was at best controversial in method.

Even meeting a vampire and allowing them to drain you proves nothing more than something happened to you energy-wise of which could be a number of psychological reasons behind the occurrence.
Orgone energy was abandoned long ago; Reich was the last real proponent of the idea and it's been pretty much ignored since '54 since it has no evidence to support it.
Kirlian photography has nothing to do with non-existant auras but has everything to do with electrical flow, moisture and particles (dirt, etc.) that result in pretty colors when a current is applied.
"...which could be a number of psychological reasons behind the occurrence."
Agreed!
 
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