Vatican Removes Anti-Abortion Activist From the Priesthood

[Estro Felino]

In other words, pro-creation is not the purpose of sex. But there are other reasons some resort to abortion other than promiscuity. 'Let the little children come to me' does not sound like Jesus would approve of abortion.

In this historical context...by the way...where hormonal pills enable women to reduce the risk of unwanted pregnancies by 2%...abortion seems an anachronistic issue to me.
I am not saying that one shouldn't have sex to enjoy life. I am just saying that abortion is extremely avoidable.

 

[Father Heathen]

I am not opposed to Vatican II. Unless Vatican II necessarily means to spread the gates of the Vatican to Freemasonry. In that case, I am.
What Vatican II brought was nothing but turmoil and assassinations. Pope Luciani assassinated within the Vatican, and Pope Wojtila nearly assassinated as well.
It's normal, I guess that now Popes abide by the Freemasonic agenda...because they don't want to die.

Enough with the goofy, nonsensical conspiracy theory spam.

 

[pearl]

I am just saying that abortion is extremely avoidable.

Unless government attempts to take away the right to contraceptives, including any pills considered abortive.

 

[Estro Felino]

Enough with the goofy, nonsensical conspiracy theory spam.

Nobody can deny that the Vatican is a state and as all states, it is politicized.
With a leader that said that Trump is not a Christian because Christian build bridges not walls.

 

[Estro Felino]

Unless government attempts to take away the right to contraceptives, including any pills considered abortive.

In that case it would be a dictatorship.

 

[pearl]

In that case it would be a dictatorship.

And how close we came!

 

[Estro Felino]

And how close we came!

Not quite...because the federal level switched the matter to the local (state) level.
So it's states which would impose the ban on abortion.

 

[pearl]

Not quite...because the federal level switched the matter to the local (state) level.
So it's states which would impose the ban on abortion.

On matters of abortion, it is those like Justice Thomas who would like to go further on many issues we once though settled law.

 

[Father Heathen]

Nobody can deny that the Vatican is a state and as all states, it is politicized.
With a leader that said that Trump is not a Christian because Christian build bridges not walls.

How does one echo Christ without stepping on political toes?

But I was referring to your goofy freemason nonsense. Let's keep the conversation within the realm of reality and not muddy the water with the illuminati, ghosts, and goblins. 'k? 'k.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But the facts are Father Pavone was very active in the pro-life movement and that should be something rewarded by the Vatican which has the Pontifical Pro-Life Academy. It shouldn't be something punished.
So there is something absolutely paradoxical, considering the fact that so many priests who committed the most heinous crimes weren't laicized.

This is the Church of Bergoglio. A Pope who said "it's good I am a political pope....and as whether I am a pawn or not...maybe".

How many of them are pro-Trump even after all he's done? How many take the lord's name in vain?
And, ultimately, the Vatican/Catholic Church are literally making up all the rules and policies as they go along.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I am not opposed to Vatican II. Unless Vatican II necessarily means to spread the gates of the Vatican to Freemasonry. In that case, I am.

Do you know what Freemasons are? Please tell me. I'd love to hear what my best friend's dad is really like. I didn't know my grandfather much so enlighten me.
I did crack their cypher so just do straight quotations when referencing their books if it's coded.

 

[Estro Felino]

Do you know what Freemasons are? Please tell me. I'd love to hear what my best friend's dad is really like. I didn't know my grandfather much so enlighten me.
I did crack their cypher so just do straight quotations when referencing their books if it's coded.

It's a respectable association, but one cannot have the cake and eat it. Either you are a cardinal or you are a Mason.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Either you are a cardinal or you are a Mason.

Papel edicts can change all that and another one reverse it. As I said, they are making all this up as they go along.

 

[Estro Felino]

Papel edicts can change all that and another one reverse it. As I said, they are making all this up as they go along.

It's as if an attorney defended both the claimant and the defendant simultaneously. Is that doable?

 

[RestlessSoul]

Nobody can deny that the Vatican is a state and as all states, it is politicized.
With a leader that said that Trump is not a Christian because Christian build bridges not walls.

It’s not for me to say who is Christian and who isn’t - I’m not even sure to what extent I’m Christian myself. But Trump certainly doesn’t talk or behave like any sort of follower of Christ’s message of love and compassion. And that image of him holding a Bible upside down outside a church he’d never set foot in appears to speak volumes.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's as if an attorney defended both the claimant and the defendant simultaneously. Is that doable?

You really don't know what and who the Masons are, do you?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It’s not for me to say who is Christian and who isn’t - I’m not even sure to what extent I’m Christian myself. But Trump certainly doesn’t talk or behave like any sort of follower of Christ’s message of love and compassion. And that image of him holding a Bible upside down outside a church he’d never set foot in appears to speak volumes.

As does his "two Corinthians." It's like an American spy in Nazi Germany not starting a hand count with the thumb.

 

[Wu Wei]

Priests for Life’s Frank Pavone: ‘The Next Pope Can Reinstate Me’ to the Priesthood

 

[metis]

I have never heard anyone from the Vatican say "there are zero Freemasons within the Vatican walls".
When they say that, I will be convinced.

First of all, whether there are any of them within the Vatican tells us nothing.

Secondly, conspiracy theories abound dealing with the Vatican, thus supporting evidence is needed, which I have not seen supplied on this matter by anyone.

 

[metis]

If abortion becomes allowed in the eyes of Jesus, sex becomes mere lust and devoid of its spiritual reasons.
Because abortion basically means that for the sake of lust, people are disposed to suppress a life.

Do you believe the same with birth control and withdrawal prior to ejaculation?

IMO, I think the reality is that the vast majority of people just enjoying doing it, thus not necessarily trying to have children. Is that morally wrong? IMO, not intrinsically.