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Vatican Removes Anti-Abortion Activist From the Priesthood

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Do you believe the same with birth control and withdrawal prior to ejaculation?

IMO, I think the reality is that the vast majority of people just enjoying doing it, thus not necessarily trying to have children. Is that morally wrong? IMO, not intrinsically.
I am sorry... but contraceptives are not the same as abortion.
Because sperms and egg cells will die anyway.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I am sorry... but contraceptives are not the same as abortion.
Because sperms and egg cells will die anyway.
I was referring to why people have sex, not that abortion and contraception are equivalent. IOW, what I was responding to was your statement on "lust".
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Yes. Mason Carducci wrote the Hymn to Satan.
I have to laugh, not that you're wrong but that my old girlfriend's last name was "Carducci". I got a weakness for Italian women. :)

BTW, I can tell ya that she definitely was not Satanic.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I was referring to why people have sex, not that abortion and contraception are equivalent. IOW, what I was responding to was your statement on "lust".

I was using a hyperbole. I meant that abortion vilifies the meaning of sex, making it not worth it.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
Is there anything from (Jesus) Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah on the matter, please? Right?
What if Mary would have aborted, please? Right?

Does Jesus specifically mention abortion, not that I know of, but that would be making an argument from silence. You seem to get very wrapped up in the 'exact' words of Jesus. This is the food, the nectar of scholars. What you read in the Gospels are from the next generation, the sub-apostolic. With the realization that the promised second coming had not yet happened, the need to write for future generations was their purpose.
" the need to write for future generations was their purpose. "

So, one agree, that the Gospels did not fulfill the purpose of (Jesus) the Yeshua- the Israelite Messiah, please, right?

Regards
 
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