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Vegetarianism. How do you look at it ?

Yes it is serious but it happens

Why should i adopt a vegetarian diet, i want to enjoy this life including the food i eat.

Yeah, life is short, why not enjoy it, what is the threat or harm or difference made overall by eating meat or not eating meat? I wonder, and look forward to seeing more from all sides on the topic, most interesting to me would be people with spiritual arguments, since I can't fully grasp how atheistic arguments with no consequences in the afterlife for doing something most people in the world do can be justified.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
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I ignore long answers (no kid...) they actually hurt so i give them a wide birth

At least he's kind enough to break it up into paragraph structure for us.

I scroll on past unparagraphed walls of text without a second glance.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I've been vegetarian for 50 years. So are many of my friends. I haven't noticed any increased farting, nor do mine usually have any odor. :cool:

A meat eater can smell the difference. As for increase, i wouldn't say so
 
Before covid we ate out about once or twice a month. We never order takeaway or have ready meals. Vegetables and fruit are usually fresh and seasonal with just a bit of imported, capsicum and banana for example that are not grown here.

I usually prepare the same ingredients with a vegetarian and a meat variation. 4 of us eat meat, 1 doesn't. Once or twice each week we all eat meat free.

Meats we eat are various cuts of beef or pork and chicken. Fish at least once a week. Both the beef and pork are locally farmed.

What i cook is usually English but i do do Mexican, Italian, Indian, Chinese and French We live in France so when we do.eat out it is inhabitably french cuisine but there is an excellent Thai restaurant nearby.

What is the "English" cuisine? I had a beef stew with lots of potatoes and carrots and yorkshire pudding (the bread thing) with it, is that like English style? That is what I ate yesterday and today.
 

SalixIncendium

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After reading 5+ pages, I'm quite astounded to see that I may be the only one who actually responded to the question asked in the OP instead of skipping over the OP entirely and responding to the title.

I'm quite disappointed, as I would have loved to read responses to the question, especially by dharmic posters. *sigh*
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
What is the "English" cuisine? I had a beef stew with lots of potatoes and carrots and yorkshire pudding (the bread thing) with it, is that like English style? That is what I ate yesterday and today.


English is very varied, the stereotype beef, carrots and mashed potatoes is very 1950s.

For traditional food think beef Wellington, hotpot, cottage pie, shepherds pie, trifle, scones.

There is fusion food, mixes of foods from around the world. Like Scottish smoked salmon and rice or pasta.

I cook with a lot of wine that adds its own richness and flavour
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Purely imaginary, I'd say.

What was this 'protective mist'. Where did you get this idea?
No clouds? No Van Allen belt? A radically different anatomy, physiology and metabolism, then a sudden astronomical, meteorological and biological upheaval?
There is no evidence for any of this; no mechanism I can think of, nor any reason to suppose such an extraordinary transformation might happen.

But we are still trying to understand how it all happened...I'm not a scientist... so just my view

We do know that cataclysmic events happen, we know that poles switch every once in a long while, we know that a massive 9.0 earthquakes have happened, maybe a larger one?

Who knows?
 

Valjean

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exchemist

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I recently read people in northern climates (eg UK) have a tendency to be deficient in D through the winter months, irrespective of diet.

eg -
Vitamin D deficiency during winter
That may be so. But that is due to sunlight at higher latitudes rater than dietary deficiency.

This discussion is wandering from my original point which was that vegans almost always need dietary supplements, whereas it is easy to avoid the need for them with ordinary vegetarian or non-vegetarian ones.
 

Valjean

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It is a similar to the anti-abortion arguments... find the most appalling picture you can and suggest it is widespread. IT IS NOT
But it is. Farrowing cages are necessary in factory farms, and factory farms are necessary, given our numbers and dietary habits.
Also immoral and environmental hazards -- but let's not talk about inconvenient truths....
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I loooove Indian food and luckily there are some great restaurants here as well!

Indian food has some challenges with regard to health ... too oily, too salty, too white, and too sweet. Diabetes is a challenge for many. I prefer home cooked Indian for that reason. My go to meal when I cook here is 2 veggie curries, cucumber raita, dhal, and basmati brown. I can cook other stuff, but that's the go to.
 

Secret Chief

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That may be so. But that is due to sunlight at higher latitudes rater than dietary deficiency.

This discussion is wandering from my original point which was that vegans almost always need dietary supplements, whereas it is easy to avoid the need for them with ordinary vegetarian or non-vegetarian ones.
Yes, that was my point - vitamin D insufficiency, even if you eat meat, because of the latitude.
As to supplements, so many things are fortified it's not difficult to get everything you need without supplements. I would also say that, when balanced against all the horrendous negatives of the meat industry, for a vegetarian of any hue, taking a supplement is a tiny trivial matter.
 

Valjean

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I recently read people in northern climates (eg UK) have a tendency to be deficient in D through the winter months, irrespective of diet.
We have the same metabolism and vitamin requirements as our ancestors in their tropical homeland, running around naked with their irradiated skin making scads of vitamin D.
Maybe we should never have moved North, or donned clothing. :rolleyes:
 
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