Verifiable evidence for creationism?

[Sapiens]

Not evidence OF a god, but also not evidence that there IS NO god. The likelihood of there not being a god gets raised due to parsimony and infinite regression.

 

[leibowde84]

Not evidence OF a god, but also not evidence that there IS NO god. The likelihood of there not being a god gets raised due to parsimony and infinite regression.

Also, for likelihood to even come into question, God must be adequately defined. I personally think that merely saying "creator" isn't nearly enough.

 

[Zosimus]

Not evidence OF a god, but also not evidence that there IS NO god. The likelihood of there not being a god gets raised due to parsimony and infinite regression.

I don't believe you. Please provide an exact calculation. Show your work.

 

[Sapiens]

I don't believe you. Please provide an exact calculation. Show your work.

What you believe is no longer irrelevant.

 

[leibowde84]

I don't believe you. Please provide an exact calculation. Show your work.

What "exact calculation" are you requesting specifically?

 

[Thief]

I assumed that your claim of "certainty" could be backed up with evidence. Without any evidence, how can you be certain?

clarity of reason

 

[Thief]

the definition has a built in pivot.
I say the big bang and evolution are evidence of God.

the pivot is faith.....the ability to believe
I use reasoning to build my belief

 

[leibowde84]

clarity of reason

But, reason would dictate that certainty requires evidence of some kind.

 

[leibowde84]

the pivot is faith.....the ability to believe
I use reasoning to build my belief

Faith is not certainty though. Certainty does not require faith.

 

[Sapiens]

What "exact calculation" are you requesting specifically?

The one that leads to the ignore list.

 

[Thief]

Faith is not certainty though. Certainty does not require faith.

when you don't have a photo, a fingerprint, an equation or a repeatable experiment.....
all you got is faith

and all you can do is think about it

 

[Thief]

But, reason would dictate that certainty requires evidence of some kind.

and no...it does not

 

[Sapiens]

clarity of reason

the pivot is faith.....the ability to believe
I use reasoning to build my belief

Faith is not certainty though. Certainty does not require faith.

Clarity of reason is demonstrated by lack of any falsification and accuracy of prediction. Certainty drives faith away by obviating the need.

when you don't have a photo, a fingerprint, an equation or a repeatable experiment.....
all you got is faith

and all you can do is think about it

Multiple and supporting inferences that reach the same conclusion via different paths works just fine.

and no...it does not

Certainty without evidence is just one part fairy tale combined with two parts hubris.

 

[leibowde84]

when you don't have a photo, a fingerprint, an equation or a repeatable experiment.....
all you got is faith

and all you can do is think about it

Exactly, so how can you be certain about this?

 

[Thief]

Clarity of reason is demonstrated by lack of any falsification and accuracy of prediction. Certainty drives faith away by obviating the need.

Multiple and supporting inferences that reach the same conclusion via different paths works just fine.
Certainty without evidence is just one party fairy tale combined with two parts hubris.

you didn't mention logic....
I can now ignore you

 

[Thief]

Exactly, so how can you be certain about this?

redundant...you are

 

[leibowde84]

redundant...you are

No, you just haven't answered my question, so I asked it again.

 

[Sapiens]

you didn't mention logic....
I can now ignore you

Logic is an inherent part of evidence, illogical evidence is an oxymoron demanding revision of the base claim, it is belief in retrograde.

 

[Thief]

Logic is an inherent part of evidence, illogical evidence is an oxymoron demanding revision of the base claim, it is belief in retrograde.

no.... logic resides.....in your head
and who's a moron?

 

[Zosimus]

What "exact calculation" are you requesting specifically?

When someone says, "God is extremely unlikely," I want to see the exact calculation used to arrive at the "extremely unlikely" probability. Otherwise, it's just someone saying what he or she feels.