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Verses that show Qur'an is from God

Protector

Humble Da'i.
Surah-Al-Baqarah Chapter 2 Verses 23-24
"And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true. But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith."
Well guys...a challenge to prove if the Qur'an is true or not.
Surah Al-Anbiya Chapter 21 Verse 30
"...and we created every living thing out of water"
Who could have said this 1400 years ago???
Also you can prove a single thing that is not correct in the Qur'an or if it is morally not right.
 

kai

ragamuffin
Surah-Al-Baqarah Chapter 2 Verses 23-24
"And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true. But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith."
Well guys...a challenge to prove if the Qur'an is true or not.
Surah Al-Anbiya Chapter 21 Verse 30
"...and we created every living thing out of water"
Who could have said this 1400 years ago???
Also you can prove a single thing that is not correct in the Qur'an or if it is morally not right.
anybody
 

kai

ragamuffin
only four elements in them days, earth ,air, fire ,and water everything was made out of one or the other or a mixture of some
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Surah-Al-Baqarah Chapter 2 Verses 23-24
"And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true. But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith."
Well guys...a challenge to prove if the Qur'an is true or not.
Surah Al-Anbiya Chapter 21 Verse 30
"...and we created every living thing out of water"
Who could have said this 1400 years ago???
Also you can prove a single thing that is not correct in the Qur'an or if it is morally not right.
This proves nothing -- except that you believe a book to be of divine origin.
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
How could a mere man 1400 years ago say that every living thing is created from water?
By exhaling air and using muscles to shape the vocal cords, tongue and lips, you can control the tone, frequency and volume of sounds and fashion them into words.

As to the content, anyone with an incredibly simplified (to the point of useless) understanding of what living things are composed of could say the same thing. Whether 1400 years ago or today on RF. :bow:
 

Protector

Humble Da'i.
Obviously, one did, because it's included in the book.
So obviously it is from God. People did not have the TECHNOLOGY to tell EVERY LIVING THING has water in it. Rhinos, plants, elephants, jaguars, snakes,alligators, tigers, lions,etc. All are created from water because that is what science tells us. I doubt whether there were even tigers in Arabia, let alone it was created from water.
 

McBell

Unbound
I think i have might have put this in the wrong thread. Ok, maybe its relevant because no real god is WRONG, a god is right, so a god wouldnt agree to that. Or let his darling prophet do that.
Now what are you talking about?

If you are going to make an accusation of pedophilia, I would strongly suggest you back it up.

For I have not found a single solitary piece of legitimate evidence that states Mohammad had sex with his underage bride whilst she was underage.
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
How could a mere man 1400 years ago say that every living thing is created from water?

I don't know try looking up stuff from Ancient Greek and Egyptian cultures. They knew about stuff like that way before 1400 years ago.
 

Somkid

Well-Known Member
Islamic Lies & Myth no 1 – “Islam is peaceful” - Well, Muslims might think killing human beings is peaceful, as mentioned in Quran 8:39 – ‘kill non-Muslim men, women and children, until there are no more non-Muslims in this world’, is definitely an ideology no sensible person will call as peaceful, unless he is brain dead.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 2 – “Islam is pure” - Coconut water is also pure coconut water, so what of it? This is a subjective word, which simply means it is not adulterated – like pure Honey. There are pure poisons too. There is pure Evil – like Islam is.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 3 – “Islam is for everybody” - When Islam includes killing every non-Muslims, (8:39), then of course, it includes everybody. Coconut is for everybody too, but it all depends if everybody want it, isn’t it?
Islamic Lies & Myth no 4 – “Islam is for everybody” – but Allah says it can be only in Arabic, what about the 99.6% of the ‘everybody’ of this world, whose language is not Arabic? Shouldn’t have Allah considered the other languages, like more than the 30 religions do? Is Allah capable only in the Arabic language and ignorant of the others?
Islamic Lies & Myth no 5 – “The Quran has everything, which is in the Bible” - This common blatant lie is a joke. The Quran is one book, whereas the Bible comprises 66 books. The Quran has 433 pages, whereas the Bible is of 1,709 pages. The verses in the Bible amount to a voluminous 31,173 against the Quran's paltry 6,241 verses. The Quran has 114 Sura (chapters) against the Bible’s 1,189 chapters. And this also clearly shows, the complete ignorance of Muslims for the Bible.
Islamic Lies & Myths no 6 – “The Quran has everything, which is in the Bible” - Fact - the majority of the prophets in the Bible are not (missing) in the Quran. This also shows the Muslims’ complete ignorance of the Bible and the plentiful information missing in the Quran. This is also why in the Quran 2:159 Allah {actually it is Muhammad who was not able to copy it} cursed the Christians for hiding their scriptures (Bible). Since Allah claims he produced the scriptures for the Christians, then why are the majority of prophets in the Bible missing in the Quran? And in Quran 2:136 Allah says what was revealed to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Jewish tribes, Moses, Jesus is all in the Quran – it is not. So, Allah is actually the biggest liar to say such a big lie.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 7 – “The Quran is a wonderful masterpiece” - Fact - The chapters of the Quran are not arranged in importance, continuity, biography, chronology, significance or sequence of any sort, but are arranged by length - the longest chapter first and the last chapter with just 6 lines. Verses are disorderly arranged and jumbled up in unrelated subjects/topics. Christians will be horrified to know that there is no prophecy, no chronology, no geography, no biography of anybody (not even Muhammad), no ministry, no history, no proverbs, no parables, no miracles, no psalms, etc, generally, just do’s and don’t, like an instruction manual of a vacuum cleaner; and with punitive punishments, retaliations and rewards specified.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 8 – “The Quran has everything” – the Quran has nothing worthwhile for any intelligent person, except being a recipe for the terrorists.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 9 – “The Quran 10:38 confirms and explains the bible” – This is rubbish and a big white lie. Without all the prophets, etc this claim is a stupid joke. In any case, the Christians do not want the Quran to confirm anything for them, as they already know the Bible is the ‘Word of the Lord’ and whoever copies and uses that information is cursed by the one true God in Rev.22: 18-19.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 10 – “Islam is harmonious” – Shias killing Sunnis, Sunnis killing Shias (inside mosques), Sunnis killing Druze, Sunnis killing Kurds, Hannafi killing Ahmadiyah, the list goes on and on. Is this Islamic harmony invisible?
 

Somkid

Well-Known Member
Islamic Lies & Myth no 11 – “Islam is charitable” – If each Muslim contributed just 1 dollar, the 1 billion dollars collected, could have built 200,000 wooden houses for 1 million homeless Acehnese Muslims in Indonesia, who are suffering in tents today, since the tsunami of dec.2004. This prompted the Indonesian Ulama Council to condemn all Muslims as the ‘Invisible Muslims’. Earthquake Victims still live in appalling conditions in Pakistan, Iran, Algeria, Turkey, etc, Shame on you Muslims, not to care for human lives. But, Muslims will willing spend money for mosques, terrorism, conversion of non-Muslims as the Quran says, all for self-interest in gaining extra merit points from Allah only for themselves {selfish}.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 12 – “Islam means unity” – Then why are there more than 200 Islamic Sects ‘blowing’ the heads off each other? If Muslims cannot agree among them, where is Islamic unity?
Islamic Lies & Myth no 13 – “Islam is the final message” – a) Then why did Baha’ Allah and his Muslim followers breakaway and form their own Bahai religion? B) Why did the Shia not agree to the final message and create their own version of the Quran? Shi’ites believe the Mahdi (Jesus) will return and restore things as they should be. Sunnis view this as a denial of Mohammed as a final prophet C) Why do the Sufi Muslims have a different version of the Quran? Sufiism says that true religion is inner truth, not outer practice, as Muslims acknowledge in complete contrast, so, Sufis look to Jesus much more than to Mohammed for inspiration, guidance and as their example D) Amadiyah Muslims recognize Muhammad but, their founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who claimed also to be the Mahdi (said he will re-appear again at the end of the world in contradiction to the Quran which says Jesus will come to judge at the end of the world). The list goes on and on.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 14 – “Women are equally treated in Islam” – Quran 2:223 “Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will,” 2:228 “Women are equal in Kindness {only}, and men are a degree over women” 2:282 “one man witness equals two women witnesses.” 4:3 “marry up to four women, if you can do justice” {justice in sex? When Periods?} 4:4 “give women a dowry” {if equal why dowry?} 4:34 “Men are in charge of women.” Also in 4:34 “Men must scourge {whip or lash} their disobedient wives {like animals} and desert them to separate beds” {men to decide, when enough is enough as it is not specified}. The long list of Islamic discrimination and gender inequality goes on and on.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 15 – “Women are equally treated in Islam” - Muslim women must cover themselves from head to toe to prevent the Muslim men from getting tempted sexually. If the problem is the Muslim men, then why don’t they avoid staring at women, or Muslim men wear blinkers or castrate those Muslims who cannot control their dirty sexual minds?
Islamic Lies & Myth no 16 “Women are equally treated in Islam” – Why is there no female Islamic clergy, unlike {female} nuns, sisters, preachers, church-wardens, ministers, pastors, evangelists, etc in Christianity? Why is it in Islam, only men can be Imam, Ustaz, Ullama, Mufti, Kadi, etc? Aren’t women good enough in Islamic knowledge to hold these posts? The incident in Canada, where a Muslim woman led the prayers in October 2005 was condemned and created such an international Islamic uproar. No news about her since; I wonder what happened to her?
Islamic Lies & Myth no 17 – “Islam is fair” - The five pillars of Islam are central to Islam. One of them - pilgrimage to Mecca if a Muslim can afford, is discriminatory based on being a rich or poor Muslim. Annually, more than a million make this pilgrimage. But the 99% of the Muslims better forget it, as they have no money to fulfill this cardinal Islamic ritual. Is this a fair Islamic commandment? Even in a hundred years, only a tiny percentage would have performed Haj rituals (and mind you, a sizable number are repeat pilgrims - the generations past away - the new generations coming) out of 1.2 billion Muslims. Where is the fairness in Islam?
Islamic Lies & Myth no 18 – “Non-Muslims pray to statues/idols” -Muslims always condemn non-Muslims for praying to statues/idols – But it is obligatory for all Muslims to pray to the stone structure (Kaaba), the black stone and the 360 idols in the Kaaba. Muslims also pray to graves, Mausoleums, shrines {like the Dome in Jerusalem} etc. Muslim hypocrites have no limit to their ‘foul mouth’ for others.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 19 – “Adam was a Muslim” - If this is true then from 100% Muslim world, down to 17% Muslim population is a very bad record, right? Why did Islam drop so drastically? How did Adam become a Muslim without the Quran/Hadiths/Kaaba/Sunna/black stone/Islam/Muhammad, no Allah {even the Hindu Allah was not in existence during Adam’s time}. Adam/Eve could not read or write – so who taught them about Islam/Allah, how and when to pray and face where? Who circumcised Adam? Absurd, isn’t it?
Islamic Lies & Myth no 20 – “Jerusalem is a Holy city to Islam” – The name ‘Jerusalem’ is not even mentioned anywhere in the Quran. The word ‘Palestinian’ comes from the race, Philistines who are originally from the Island of Crete. What is there today, are Arabs who came from neighbouring countries. There is no distinct Palestinian race among the Arabs today, is there? They are Arabs plain and simple.
Islamic Lies & Myth no 21 – “Jerusalem’s Al Aqsa Mosque is from where Muhammad rose to Heaven” - This is a big Lie and a Myth. {How does anyone even know if Muhammad did go to Heaven, leave alone from Jerusalem?} This false claim is based on Muslim guessing of the Quran 17:1 {Actually, the Quran says, “…carried his servant [Muhammad] by night [on a donkey] from the Inviolable place of worship [Mecca] to the far distant place of worship [Later-Muslims claimed this place as Al-Masujidi al-Aqtza] the neighbourhood whereof.” This ‘far distant place’ could mean anywhere on earth, couldn’t it? It doesn’t even mention a mosque, does it? If Muhammad was already dead, then to whom did Allah reveal this sura? {Who coined this Sura? You see the lie/fraud in the Quran? } The fact - the Al Aqsa mosque and the Dome of the Rock was not built yet then, when Muhammad was killed. Did he go 700Km. just in one night and that too on a donkey, over the desert, did the donkey have headlamps, was Muhammad’s body strapped or someone holding the dead body, in the extreme cold of the desert, did the donkey stop to quench his thirst, or did the donkey have a supersonic 700 Km. flight?
Fact-Jerusalem was captured by Khalif Omar only in 638, six years after Mohammed's death. Throughout this time there were only churches in Jerusalem, and a church stood on the Temple Mount, called the Church of Saint Mary, built in the Byzantine architectural style, started by Emperor Constantine 1 after 330 A.D. and completed by Emperor Justinian. In or around 711, or about 80 years after Muhammad died, Malik's son, Abd El-Wahd - who ruled from 705-715 - renovated the Church of St. Mary and converted it into a mosque. He left the structure as it was, a typical Byzantine {Eastern Roman Empire} "basilica" structure with a row of pillars with corridors on either side of the rectangular "ship" in the centre {A typical church building design}. All he did was some cosmetic renovations, removed Christian items and replaced the Christian stained glasses. He then named it Al-Aqsa, so it would sound like the one mentioned by the Muslims. This Mosque still looks more like a church, and there is no Mosque anywhere in this world, which looks like it. The Muslims have no shame to claim a church as their 3rd most holy mosque. Al Aqsa mosque did not exist when Muhammad died. Allah obviously meant the Medina Mosque. But the Muslims wanted Islam to be recognized with God’s “people of the Book” and seek some acceptance from the Jews, which Muhammad tried, but was rejected all the time, as Jews consider Muhammad a fake. Historically, from 2000 B.C., Jerusalem was Jewish and Jerusalem is a Hebrew name, originally it was called the ‘city of Judah’ and once the ‘city of God’. In ancient days, Arabs had no name for this city, but in modern times named this city ‘al-Khuds’ {‘the Holy’}
 
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