• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Video: Debunking Every Anti-Communist Argument Ever

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
The video starts with this quote about anti-communism: “What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

I thought this video was pretty well done, by Spooky Scary Socialist. I don't normally post videos like this, but I'm going to make an exception with this one, since it's rather entertaining and its pace is rather brisk, with interesting graphics and other visual effects.

Here is the table of contents:

0:00 EVERYONE IS HERE!
1:22 Introduction
2:45 Socialism is when the government does stuff
4:36 Communism would create a hivemind dystopia!
5:50 Communism killed 100 bazillion people!
7:07 Animal Farm
9:17 No food lol
11:24 Commies wanna take my stuff?
12:28 Won’t equal pay discourage innovation?
14:27 But what about human nature tho?
15:36 Beat it and move to North Korea with you iPhone, commie scum!
17:33 Horseshoe Theory
19:01 Communism always results in a totalitarian dictatorship!
21:15 Communism takes away political rights!
23:12 Lol commies are bad with economics
24:47 Fall of communism
26:33 YOU’RE JUST SOME LAZY COMMIE LOL TALK TO ANYONE WHO LIVED UNDER COMMUNISM
28:52 My grandparents’ slaves were taken by communism!
29:01 My friend who fled communism said it sucked
29:11 You’re not a real communist, you’re just thirsty for Stalin’s bussy
29:32 Vuvuzuela
31:15 Why is anti-communism so prevalent?
34:09 Conclusion
36:20 End Card
38:47 Parenti


Comments?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Okay, now do one about anti-fascism. Oh, wait. One is vastly more socially more acceptable for some reason (despite murdering far more people), and the other would get you banned in most places now, so that won't fly. :rolleyes:
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Okay, now do one about anti-fascism. Oh, wait. One is vastly more socially more acceptable for some reason (despite murdering far more people), and the other would get you banned in most places now, so that won't fly. :rolleyes:

Oh?

Edit: like, debunk anti-fascism? Or anti-anti-fascism?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Oh?

Edit: like, debunk anti-fascism? Or anti-anti-fascism?
Debunk anti-fascism. I was really just making a point about a double standard that always disgusted me. It's fine to defend communism and even to be an open Stalinist or Maoist - two of history's biggest murderers. But could you imagine a professor being a "Fascist theorist" like you have Marxist-Leninists at universities, for example? I think if one is not allowed, neither should be.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Okay, now do one about anti-fascism. Oh, wait. One is vastly more socially more acceptable for some reason (despite murdering far more people), and the other would get you banned in most places now, so that won't fly. :rolleyes:
Yeah, it's too soon after trump. Good call.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Debunk anti-fascism. I was really just making a point about a double standard that always disgusted me. It's fine to defend communism and even to be an open Stalinist or Maoist - two of history's biggest murderers. But could you imagine a professor being a "Fascist theorist" like you have Marxist-Leninists at universities, for example? I think if one is not allowed, neither should be.

Well, the video posted above covers one of the points you're making (5:50 Communism killed 100 bazillion people!).

Other than that, I understand what you're saying about the double standard, but there may be some videos which debunk anti-fascism. It might be easier to find videos condemning Antifa than anti-fascism in general.

Is there anything stopping you from finding and posting a video which debunks anti-fascism?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Well, the video posted above covers one of the points you're making (5:50 Communism killed 100 bazillion people!).

Other than that, I understand what you're saying about the double standard, but there may be some videos which debunk anti-fascism. It might be easier to find videos condemning Antifa than anti-fascism in general.

Is there anything stopping you from finding and posting a video which debunks anti-fascism?
I probably could. But an actual video isn't the point I was making. That's all I wanted to say, really.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Okay, now do one about anti-fascism. Oh, wait. One is vastly more socially more acceptable for some reason (despite murdering far more people), and the other would get you banned in most places now, so that won't fly. :rolleyes:

In fairness, I've known quite a few communists, including self-identified Marxist-Leninists, and only a few of them supported state oppression, the Gulag, etc. The rest simply liked the economic ideals, impractical and unrealistic (in my opinion) as they may be.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Debunk anti-fascism. I was really just making a point about a double standard that always disgusted me. It's fine to defend communism and even to be an open Stalinist or Maoist - two of history's biggest murderers. But could you imagine a professor being a "Fascist theorist" like you have Marxist-Leninists at universities, for example? I think if one is not allowed, neither should be.

Ok gotcha. That makes sense.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
One thing I might add is that, if we were to look over the wider historical background and compared which group was more heavily persecuted, fascists or communists, then (in the US at least) I would say it would be communists.

Fascism is really just capitalism on steroids, so there's no real point in being "anti-fascist" unless one is also anti-capitalist.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
The video starts with this quote about anti-communism: “What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

I thought this video was pretty well done, by Spooky Scary Socialist. I don't normally post videos like this, but I'm going to make an exception with this one, since it's rather entertaining and its pace is rather brisk, with interesting graphics and other visual effects.

Here is the table of contents:

0:00 EVERYONE IS HERE!
1:22 Introduction
2:45 Socialism is when the government does stuff
4:36 Communism would create a hivemind dystopia!
5:50 Communism killed 100 bazillion people!
7:07 Animal Farm
9:17 No food lol
11:24 Commies wanna take my stuff?
12:28 Won’t equal pay discourage innovation?
14:27 But what about human nature tho?
15:36 Beat it and move to North Korea with you iPhone, commie scum!
17:33 Horseshoe Theory
19:01 Communism always results in a totalitarian dictatorship!
21:15 Communism takes away political rights!
23:12 Lol commies are bad with economics
24:47 Fall of communism
26:33 YOU’RE JUST SOME LAZY COMMIE LOL TALK TO ANYONE WHO LIVED UNDER COMMUNISM
28:52 My grandparents’ slaves were taken by communism!
29:01 My friend who fled communism said it sucked
29:11 You’re not a real communist, you’re just thirsty for Stalin’s bussy
29:32 Vuvuzuela
31:15 Why is anti-communism so prevalent?
34:09 Conclusion
36:20 End Card
38:47 Parenti


Comments?
Great OP...well done... adding the timeline
I will try it out
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The video starts with this quote about anti-communism: “What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

I thought this video was pretty well done, by Spooky Scary Socialist. I don't normally post videos like this, but I'm going to make an exception with this one, since it's rather entertaining and its pace is rather brisk, with interesting graphics and other visual effects.

Here is the table of contents:

0:00 EVERYONE IS HERE!
1:22 Introduction
2:45 Socialism is when the government does stuff
4:36 Communism would create a hivemind dystopia!
5:50 Communism killed 100 bazillion people!
7:07 Animal Farm
9:17 No food lol
11:24 Commies wanna take my stuff?
12:28 Won’t equal pay discourage innovation?
14:27 But what about human nature tho?
15:36 Beat it and move to North Korea with you iPhone, commie scum!
17:33 Horseshoe Theory
19:01 Communism always results in a totalitarian dictatorship!
21:15 Communism takes away political rights!
23:12 Lol commies are bad with economics
24:47 Fall of communism
26:33 YOU’RE JUST SOME LAZY COMMIE LOL TALK TO ANYONE WHO LIVED UNDER COMMUNISM
28:52 My grandparents’ slaves were taken by communism!
29:01 My friend who fled communism said it sucked
29:11 You’re not a real communist, you’re just thirsty for Stalin’s bussy
29:32 Vuvuzuela
31:15 Why is anti-communism so prevalent?
34:09 Conclusion
36:20 End Card
38:47 Parenti


Comments?
I think raising all these issues in one thread may come across as a gish gallop, but I'll give him that he tore chunks out of animal farm and George Orwell.

In my opinion.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
One thing I might add is that, if we were to look over the wider historical background and compared which group was more heavily persecuted, fascists or communists, then (in the US at least) I would say it would be communists.

Fascism is really just capitalism on steroids, so there's no real point in being "anti-fascist" unless one is also anti-capitalist.
Because at the end of the day it doesn't matter what economic system a state has, the state is gonna do what it wants to do.
And facism isn't based in or inherently includes capitalism. The Spartans are basically the earliest example of proto-fascists, and Mussolini was more of a Romanesque nationalist. And it's nationalism on steroids that is fascism.
 
I only watched the one about communism killing a hundred bazillion people, but it wasn't exactly the most persuasive thing I've ever seen.

Just showed one quote, then said "but what about them capitalists eh..."

Didn't even mention Mao, Pol Pot etc.

Or address the fact that Marx-Leninists often specifically argued against the sanctity of human life and that it didn't matter how many people died in pursuit of their goals.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
The video starts with this quote about anti-communism: “What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

I thought this video was pretty well done, by Spooky Scary Socialist. I don't normally post videos like this, but I'm going to make an exception with this one, since it's rather entertaining and its pace is rather brisk, with interesting graphics and other visual effects.

Here is the table of contents:

0:00 EVERYONE IS HERE!
1:22 Introduction
2:45 Socialism is when the government does stuff
4:36 Communism would create a hivemind dystopia!
5:50 Communism killed 100 bazillion people!
7:07 Animal Farm
9:17 No food lol
11:24 Commies wanna take my stuff?
12:28 Won’t equal pay discourage innovation?
14:27 But what about human nature tho?
15:36 Beat it and move to North Korea with you iPhone, commie scum!
17:33 Horseshoe Theory
19:01 Communism always results in a totalitarian dictatorship!
21:15 Communism takes away political rights!
23:12 Lol commies are bad with economics
24:47 Fall of communism
26:33 YOU’RE JUST SOME LAZY COMMIE LOL TALK TO ANYONE WHO LIVED UNDER COMMUNISM
28:52 My grandparents’ slaves were taken by communism!
29:01 My friend who fled communism said it sucked
29:11 You’re not a real communist, you’re just thirsty for Stalin’s bussy
29:32 Vuvuzuela
31:15 Why is anti-communism so prevalent?
34:09 Conclusion
36:20 End Card
38:47 Parenti


Comments?
Looks to me like a rather juvenile collection of Aunt Sallies.

Who's it by? Russell Brand or some other facetious onanist? :D
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
The video starts with this quote about anti-communism: “What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

I thought this video was pretty well done, by Spooky Scary Socialist. I don't normally post videos like this, but I'm going to make an exception with this one, since it's rather entertaining and its pace is rather brisk, with interesting graphics and other visual effects.

Here is the table of contents:

0:00 EVERYONE IS HERE!
1:22 Introduction
2:45 Socialism is when the government does stuff
4:36 Communism would create a hivemind dystopia!
5:50 Communism killed 100 bazillion people!
7:07 Animal Farm
9:17 No food lol
11:24 Commies wanna take my stuff?
12:28 Won’t equal pay discourage innovation?
14:27 But what about human nature tho?
15:36 Beat it and move to North Korea with you iPhone, commie scum!
17:33 Horseshoe Theory
19:01 Communism always results in a totalitarian dictatorship!
21:15 Communism takes away political rights!
23:12 Lol commies are bad with economics
24:47 Fall of communism
26:33 YOU’RE JUST SOME LAZY COMMIE LOL TALK TO ANYONE WHO LIVED UNDER COMMUNISM
28:52 My grandparents’ slaves were taken by communism!
29:01 My friend who fled communism said it sucked
29:11 You’re not a real communist, you’re just thirsty for Stalin’s bussy
29:32 Vuvuzuela
31:15 Why is anti-communism so prevalent?
34:09 Conclusion
36:20 End Card
38:47 Parenti


Comments?
I guess there is no way to come to an unbiased judgement of communism (or any other dogmatic system).
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
From the OP....
"2:45 Socialism is when the government does stuff"
Just perusing the list of topics, I see this problem.
If everything government does is socialist, then
I'm a socialist too. What's wrong then? This isn't
the definition of socialism, ie, the "people" owning
the means of production.
So no time will be wasted on watching the video.

But I have a treat for all the anti-capitalists...
China building Communist Party training school in Metaverse...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Because at the end of the day it doesn't matter what economic system a state has, the state is gonna do what it wants to do.
The system does matter because each has requirements
for existence, & this leads to emergent properties.
To discover them, consider the analogy with Evolution, ie,
emergent properties aren't deduced from theoretical
premises....they're discovered by empiricism.
Regarding economics, examine the history of countries
with various systems to see which government styles are
associated with which economic system. Trends do emerge.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I only watched the one about communism killing a hundred bazillion people, but it wasn't exactly the most persuasive thing I've ever seen.

Just showed one quote, then said "but what about them capitalists eh..."

Didn't even mention Mao, Pol Pot etc.

Or address the fact that Marx-Leninists often specifically argued against the sanctity of human life and that it didn't matter how many people died in pursuit of their goals.

It wasn't a denial, but he was saying that the original claims regarding the victims of communism were questionable and heavily biased.

I would ask, whenever people cite the huge body counts attributed to communism, are they citing their own personal research, or are they just parroting something they heard someone say?

The narrator didn't deny what happened, but suggested that they were under what he called "siege socialism" due to the overwhelming outside opposition to communism right from the get-go. He pretty much established that capitalists have been utter fanatics and carried out numerous campaigns against communists (even before Mao or Pol Pot), so the choice they faced was either go soft and be defeated or defend themselves.
 
Top