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Video: Texas judge allegedly beating 16 YO daughter

Manfred

Member
Because grounding her has done such a bang up job so far, right?
Here's an idea, lets have another talk with our daughter about the rules we know she'll ignore the moment we leave the room...again.
That's what you seem to be missing.
Amazing.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Because grounding her has done such a bang up job so far, right?
Here's an idea, lets have another talk with our daughter about the rules we know she'll ignore the moment we leave the room...again.

Amazing.

Wait, was this directed at me? I'm sorry. I'm not the one who thinks it's OK to beat a child. If you're OK with child abuse, great. I just hope you aren't in a position to make any legal decisions.
 

Manfred

Member
What's your definition of child abuse?
: Sexual assault, broken bones, starvation, unsanitary living conditions, neglect..etc
Spanking your child with a doubled up leather belt isn't child abuse. Sorry gang.
 

Manfred

Member
So, just to be clear, you're saying anything short of brass knuckles is not child abuse? OK, now I'm starting to think you're just a troll.
That's not what I said at all, and noting I've said even remotely hinted at it either.... but you keep reaching for them stars, sport.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
If the female in question was actually the man's wife would it have been viewed as a husband "disciplining" his wife? Or would it have been viewed as domestic abuse? Standing over anyone while whipping a leather belt across them back and forth while ranting about how "disobedient" they are and that they need beaten into "submission" is abusive...and psychotic to boot.

Oh, and for the record, any intentional physical strike which leaves pronounced welts and/or markings and/or leaves bruises is classified as abuse/assault in this country. If it would be an assault which would land your butt in jail if done to a complete stranger in the street, it is most definitely considered abuse within the home. As a judge, you'd think the man would know that. He wouldn't have gotten away with doing that to a random person he didn't even know, so why should it be felt that he should be able to do it to his own daughter?
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Spanking your child with a doubled up leather belt isn't child abuse. Sorry gang.

As I said, it's sad that there are still people around with this view. At least I can hold out hope that this ridiculous view will be gone in the coming decades.

That's not what I said at all, and noting I've said even remotely hinted at it either.... but you keep reaching for them stars, sport.

Let's go back over this:

You were asked "Did he need brass knuckles for it to be considered abuse?", to which you responded "That's usually how common sense works". You may not have meant "yes", but that's what your response indicated. If you didn't mean to give the impression that he would need brass knuckles to make it child abuse, then you should really change your response.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Whatever anyone may think about the appropriateness or effectiveness of physical punishment, particularly in the case of someone who is 16 years old, it's clear that this had nothing to do with discipline or even punishment, but rather a twisted man with anger issues taking out his crap on his daughter, and enjoying the act of exerting control over her through pain and humiliation.
 

Walkntune

Well-Known Member
The language is the only thing I see wrong with what's going on as far as long term damage, that just wasn't physical enough to warrant the overall bleeding heart mentality of this thread.

It may even be insulting to anyone out there who has actually been beaten by their parents. Later
I have been beaten by my parents.I watched my sister beaten across the face with a fishing rod because the eye was broken..I saw my mothers face busted up as my dad smashed a frozen chicken through the car window as soon as she came home because hs didn't want chicken for dinner.(actually because he was out of alchohol and already had drunk his aftershave).These were all very common occurences in my childhood.When My dad died when I was eight it was the sadest and happiest day of my life.
Sure this is very mild but it was still disturbing not because of the physical abuse but because it was more llike emotional rape.I guess she is lucky she didn't have to wash the blood out of her own sheets and off the wall.It was still hard to watch and brought back bad emotions.
This man is no where near as sick as my dad was but i hope that he actually gets help to deal with his issues as he is not that far gone and seems like mostly anger and control issues.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Oh my God. I made a mistake watching the beginning of this video. It is very disturbing. DON'T WATCH IT!!!
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
: Sexual assault, broken bones, starvation, unsanitary living conditions, neglect..etc
Spanking your child with a doubled up leather belt isn't child abuse. Sorry gang.
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Alceste

Vagabond
Ah, then would you point out the child abuse to me?
I've watched several times now and the only thing I saw was a belt being used in conjunction with foul language.

Am I missing something here?

Yes, you are missing the fact that this is mentally unhinged, damaging, psychotic behavior and qualifies as child abuse. Try this: Walk up to somebody in your office, start shouting a stream of obscenities at them and hit them repeatedly with your belt and see what happens.

You're doing that thing abused people often do: "Meh - my dad treated me like that and I feel pretty much OK most of the time, so it's probably OK". It isn't OK. How can you know how you would feel if you weren't beaten as a child? Leave it to the psychologists to determine what is or isn't good parenting, please.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Oh my God. I made a mistake watching the beginning of this video. It is very disturbing. DON'T WATCH IT!!!

I didn't watch it. The photos and the description were more than enough to convey everything I need to know about what was happening there. The man is sick.
 
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