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Vision of Hell

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slave2six

Substitious
Now, maybe back in the day, everyone knew there was a god. And then you could choose to not believe(don't see how, but okay).
Not without facing the rack or being tortured in some other way or else being marginalized (as the Muslims did) and increasing your taxes as restricting your business practices unless you joined the predominant religion.
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
Yes I agree, and there are many who are christians that are irrational, intolerant to other beliefs, devoted to themselves and they think they are not bigots..... :D

These days, you will find any christian that actually sticks to their beliefs is called a bigot. A bigot these days has conveniently became anybody that believes the bible?:D
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
umm. heneni, i hate that argument. Now, maybe back in the day, everyone knew there was a god. And then you could choose to not believe(don't see how, but okay). But in these good ol' days, there isn't any evidence of a god. So, it ain't so easy, is it? Not for reasonable people who want some evidence of something's existence. It's easy in theory, if you are willing to ignore the complete lack of any evidence or proof in favor of just believing, for personal gain, then you are good. Most atheists won't do that. And we are bad people for it? I'm not saying religious people are bad, it's usually you guys saying we are bad.

Of course i will be the first to say, that god does not seperate the red sea only more. But it didnt help the isrealites much. They saw the miracles and did not put their trust in god. Its not visual manifestations of god that brings faith. Faith would be pointless if you saw god. You wouldnt need faith then, you would have seen him personally.

Now i know you would want me to concede that there is no evidence of god, but my god does not allow me to believe that there is anybody on this planet that does not know god exists.

So even though i can simpathize with that 'condition' its not all together a legitimate excuse.

Romans 1:18
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

So what happened?
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
More fear mongering. This is actually getting monotonous and boring.

Perhaps the fear of hell comes right along with the non-desire people have for god.

God does not cast anybody in the lake of fire cause they desire god. He puts them in the lake of fire cause they dont. Where do suppose god should put people that dont desire him? In heaven? Is it your fault or god's fault that you dont desire him?
 

Tiapan

Grumpy Old Man
Originally Posted by FFH
John Lennon is BURNING IN HELL UPSIDE DOWN, with his flesh falling off his face.

See this testimony (VISION) Divine Revelation of Hell - Testimony 1 P1 (Go to minute 6:50 to hear John Lennon's aweful fate in hell)

"Christianity will go, it will vanish and shrink, I needn't argue about that, I'm right, and I'll be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now."

John Lennon (London Evening Standard, March 4, 1966)

"The wages of sin is death" ~JESUS~


Mary K Baxter Divine Revelation of Hell P1
Whats the point of going to heaven if they don't have John Lennon, Greatful Dead, Jim Morrison and Jimmy Hendrix Concerts. Might as well be in Hell.

Hell is the legacy you leave your children if you mistreat and abuse them. Your children are your future (read - afterlife, not fairyland in the sky) , respect them.
 
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Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
Perhaps the fear of hell comes right along with the non-desire people have for god.
Then you really don't understand people at all.

God does not cast anybody in the lake of fire cause they desire god. He puts them in the lake of fire cause they dont. Where do suppose god should put people that dont desire him? In heaven? Is it your fault or god's fault that you dont desire him?
Wow that a great reason to throw some one into a lake of fire because they don't desire you. Yes, since you don't want me I'm going to burn you for ever because that far and all. BS, Your god is sick and so are you if you think such things are far. It's disgusting that (some) Christian feel they can say that there god is all loving when he pull ****, like this, but then demonize everyone else and there beliefs(and gods) when something similar is brought up. Nothing but a bunch of Hypocrites.
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
Then you really don't understand people at all.


Wow that a great reason to throw some one into a lake of fire because they don't desire you. Yes, since you don't want me I'm going to burn you for ever because that far and all. BS, Your god is sick and so are you if you think such things are far. It's disgusting that (some) Christian feel they can say that there god is all loving when he pull ****, like this, but then demonize everyone else and there beliefs(and gods) when something similar is brought up. Nothing but a bunch of Hypocrites.

It was an enjoyable post. It would have been much nicer without the few slaps in the face. Whatever floats your boat dude.
 

gzusfrk

Christian
Then you really don't understand people at all.


Wow that a great reason to throw some one into a lake of fire because they don't desire you. Yes, since you don't want me I'm going to burn you for ever because that far and all. BS, Your god is sick and so are you if you think such things are far. It's disgusting that (some) Christian feel they can say that there god is all loving when he pull ****, like this, but then demonize everyone else and there beliefs(and gods) when something similar is brought up. Nothing but a bunch of Hypocrites.
It isnt that He does'nt want you ,He does, but who wants to be with someone that doesnt want them. I believe there are only two places to go after you die,He gave us the key to get in His place if you dont want to go then than leaves only one other place.
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
It isnt that He does'nt want you ,He does, but who wants to be with someone that doesnt want them. I believe there are only two places to go after you die,He gave us the key to get in His place if you dont want to go then than leaves only one other place.
What ever, the point is that based on what's being said here that other place is a Burning Lake of Fire. I don't care who you are, to throw some one in a burning lake of fire just because they don't want to be with you is sick. And such a god doesn't deserve and such worship.
 

slave2six

Substitious
It isnt that He does'nt want you ,He does, but who wants to be with someone that doesnt want them. I believe there are only two places to go after you die,He gave us the key to get in His place if you don't want to go then than leaves only one other place.
Which is totally irrational and unethical on every level. There is no way I would even create a Hell, much less send one of my created beings there. It would show far more mercy to simply un-make the creation as if it had never been than to know that it is living in torment for eternity.
 

gwk230

Active Member
These days, you will find any christian that actually sticks to their beliefs is called a bigot. A bigot these days has conveniently became anybody that believes the bible?:D


So true, so true. If believing in the true word of Yah means a title of bigot then count me in as the biggest bigot in the world. :eek:
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
So true, so true. If believing in the true word of Yah means a title of bigot then count me in as the biggest bigot in the world. :eek:
So I;m guessing we can quote you on that when you make such post that deserve you that title?
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Thief here....
I gave John Lennon a mention under another thread (religious shopping cart)
just a short while ago......and then found this thread.
John must have been more influential than I thought.

Anyway...

Judgment works at several levels.
No one bothered to say so.
Has anyone noticed?

Perhaps I should start a fresh thread.
 

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
John Lennon said Christianity would "vanish and shrink" (London Evening Standard, March 4, 1966).

He thought wrong.
So, Christians have been saying that the Old religions(Paganism) would "Vanish and Shrink" and you all have been wrong for a vary long time. So I guess that mean you'll going to be hanging upside down in Hell burning then yourself.
 

gwk230

Active Member
John Lennon was right as well as anyone who said that a certain religion would "vanish and shrink" away.

All man made religions whether it be pagan or christian or judaism or mulim or whatever will "vanish and shrink" away when the time comes.
 
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