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Vladimir Putin: Your Opinion. (If you read this, make sure to go ahead and vote)

What is your opinion about Vladimir Putin?

  • Absolutely Great

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Good

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Okay.......

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • Neutral

    Votes: 6 24.0%
  • Not that good

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • Bad

    Votes: 6 24.0%
  • Absolutely Sucks

    Votes: 5 20.0%

  • Total voters
    25

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I abstained from voting. I don't know much about him personally. I think its best to agree or disagree with his policies and stay away from assuming to know him too well. If we are lucky he's on this forum somewhere, and we can argue with him. Maybe Hillary Clinton talks about him in her new book?
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
If that is the case, then it is not to protect the gay community but to silence rabble-rousers. There is plenty of evidence to support Putin is a homophobe. Do you have any sources to verify your claim?

all right. Russian people are tendentiously homophobic because of the influence of the Orthodox Church.
Does it mean that the Law is homophobic too?
No. I can assure you that any person is punished if they kick someone, regardless of the motivation. Envy, racism, homophobia, disagreement, whatever
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
... this is a very tough call for me. I both like and admire him in some ways, but do not understand why he is so totalitarian in some ways and frankly, not seeing the threat of Islamic terrorism as I do as a threat to Russia. I was hoping for a US, Russian, India, Japan alliance about 15 years ago, obviously that isn't going to happen now as far as Russia. I am sad for that, very disappointed in Putin but also blame Obama.

In some ways I like Putin more than Obama who I cannot seand.

I will vote ok.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
all right. Russian people are tendentiously homophobic because of the influence of the Orthodox Church.
Does it mean that the Law is homophobic too?
No. I can assure you that any person is punished if they kick someone, regardless of the motivation. Envy, racism, homophobia, disagreement, whatever

Source.

ETA: Here's mine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people#Contemporary
Russia's officials are similarly adverse to Pride Parades. Mayor of Moscow Yury Luzhkov has repeatedly banned marches, calling them "satanic".[42] Pride participants instead tried to peacefully assemble and deliver a petition to city hall regarding the right of assembly and freedom of expression. They were met by skinheads and other protesters, and police who had closed off the square and immediately arrested activists as they entered. As some were being arrested, other participants were attacked by protesters. Police did nothing. Around eleven women and two men were arrested and left in the heat, denied medical attention, and verbally abused by police officers. The officers told the women, "No one needs lesbians, no one will ever get you out of here." When participants were released from custody hours later, they were pelted by eggs and shouted at by protesters who had been waiting.[33][43]
http://www.humanrightsfirst.org/pdf/fd/08/fd-080924-lgbt-web2.pdf
http://www.ilga-europe.org/europe/g...russia/report_on_moscow_pride_2007_in_english
 
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Phil25

Active Member
Vladimir Putin is a strong, decisive leader in the International Community. We have already seen how he defied Obama in Syria and the whole West in Ukraine. I doubt even if Russia goes and occupies the whole Ukraine, West will do something. They put some sanctions, but it hardly seems to have affected Russia. Anyway I hope he does something about the plight of Middle Eastern Christians, because West has practically abandoned them, and Russia is the only hope they have. At least he could help in forming Christian Militias that could defend Christians against Islamic Extremists.
 
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sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Vladimir Putin is a strong, decisive leader in the International Community. We have already seen how he defied Obama in Syria and the whole West in Ukraine. I doubt even if Russia goes and occupies the whole Ukraine, West will do something. They put some sanctions, but it hardly seems to have affected Russia. Anyway I hope he does something about the plight of Middle Eastern Christians, because West has practically abandoned them, and Russia is the only hope they have. At least he could help in forming Christian Militias that could defend Christians against Islamic Extremists.
Evil dictators are strong, decisive people.

But maybe you want President Obama to be a strong, decisive leader like Putin. That would mean him killing his opponents, destroying private enterprise in favor of government control, making sure that the Congress is composed of his supporters, getting rid of opposition media, ensuring that judges render the proper political decisions so that his opponents can be jailed or so forth.
 
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Phil25

Active Member
Evil dictators are strong, decisive people.

But maybe you want President Obama to be a strong, decisive leader like Putin. That would mean him killing his opponents, destroying private enterprise in favor of government control, making sure that the Congress is composed of his supporters, getting rid of opposition media, ensuring that judges render the proper political decisions so that his opponents can be jailed or so forth.

I wouldnt call him evil.
 

MD

qualiaphile
Evil dictators are strong, decisive people.

But maybe you want President Obama to be a strong, decisive leader like Putin. That would mean him killing his opponents, destroying private enterprise in favor of government control, making sure that the Congress is composed of his supporters, getting rid of opposition media, ensuring that judges render the proper political decisions so that his opponents can be jailed or so forth.

Under the combined leadership of Clinton and Bush Jr. over a million Iraqis have died through war or sanctions. Half of them have been children.

Would you call those Presidents evil?
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Evil dictators are strong, decisive people.
That would mean him killing his opponents, destroying private enterprise in favor of government control, making sure that the Congress is composed of his supporters, getting rid of opposition media, ensuring that judges render the proper political decisions so that his opponents can be jailed or so forth.

Did he really do that? well...sometimes private interests are against the common welfare and so these people are supposed to be punished.
The interest of the state and the common welfare are sacred
 
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Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Phil25 said:
Vladimir Putin is a strong, decisive leader in the International Community. We have already seen how he defied Obama in Syria and the whole West in Ukraine. I doubt even if Russia goes and occupies the whole Ukraine, West will do something. They put some sanctions, but it hardly seems to have affected Russia. Anyway I hope he does something about the plight of Middle Eastern Christians, because West has practically abandoned them, and Russia is the only hope they have. At least he could help in forming Christian Militias that could defend Christians against Islamic Extremists.
The reason for the incursion is not clear, but it is Europe that is most concerned about Russia's (not Putin's) actions. It was not done for the sake of the USA. We here in the USA don't like it, but we aren't economically or militarily tied to Russia. Its a very unusual place to us. A lot of tourists from here go to Russia, and there are some connections but there are no heavy manufacturing connections like between Russia and Germany. When our politicians hit the 'Reset' button it made a lot of sense to us over here. We don't know Russia very well.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Did he really do that? well...sometimes private interests are against the common welfare and so these privates are supposed to be punished.
The interest of the state and the common welfare are sacred
The welfare of the state and people do not include imprisoning opponents, it does not include criminalizing media that portrays an image of yourself that you do not like, and the government seizing private industry is terrible for any society.

From an aesthetic point of view, no woman can deny that he's an interesting and tasty exemplar of male.
He's got muscles, but that is it. I think he looks rather quite ugly.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The welfare of the state and people do not include imprisoning opponents, it does not include criminalizing media that portrays an image of yourself that you do not like, and the government seizing private industry is terrible for any society.

Well...the freedom of thought is sacred too. If he did that, I can't do but acknowledge that he's quite antidemocratic.
As for seizing private industry...well...I don't think that these people didn't receive any compensation
 

GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
As for seizing private industry...well...I don't think that these people didn't receive any compensation
In the case of Yukos Oil, there have been two decisions by international arbitration tribunals that the Russian governments action was unlawful: in 2011 $3.5 million in compensation was awarded in compensation to RosInvestCo and this year $50 billion was awarded to GML.
 
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