Warnings

[feneluscliff]

Warnings are meant to be heard and obeyed, if not contrary to one's faith. Warnings are acts of mercy. If heed can save one's life; or stay retribution. Pharaoh the king of Egypt, received his last warning from God, before the death of his firstborn son. Had he heeded the warning he could, have spared the life of his son; but his heart was harden because of the power and majesty of our God, whom he would not acknowledge. We to have been warned of God, in fact our last warning is giving in revelation 14:6-12. Like pharaoh, we are to acknowledge God in obedience to his law and to worship him on his holy Sabbath day, revelation 14:7. For the seventh day Sabbath is our token, and our sign of allegiance to God. Our neglect of this duty is as harden our hearts to God, like pharaoh did. Our life is at stake!

 

[Nietzsche]

Had he heeded the warning he could, have spared the life of his son; but his heart was harden because of the power and majesty of our God, whom he would not acknowledge.

God hardened the Pharaoh's heart and then warned him. At that point, how is the Pharaoh responsible? God intentionally made it so the Pharaoh wouldn't listen. That's like blinding a man and then punishing him for failing an eye exam.

 

[feneluscliff]

God hardened the Pharaoh's heart and then warned him. At that point, how is the Pharaoh responsible? God intentionally made it so the Pharaoh wouldn't listen. That's like blinding a man and then punishing him for failing an eye exam.

I will only say this, God didn't really harden his heart. Pride harden his heart because he would not acknowledge the sovereignty of God. He taught himself a god. Each plague harden his heart, because he would not submit. That I why God said he would "harden his heart" the very existence of Jehovah caused his heart to be hard like Lucifer before his fall.

 

[Nietzsche]

I will only say this, God didn't really harden his heart. Pride harden his heart because he would not acknowledge the sovereignty of God. He taught himself a god. Each plague harden his heart, because he would not submit. That I why God said he would "harden his heart" the very existence of Jehovah caused his heart to be hard like Lucifer before his fall.

But the text states that God hardened the Pharaoh's heart. As in, did something with the intent to make the Pharaoh less likely to 'submit'.

 

[jojom]

Warnings are meant to be heard and obeyed, if not contrary to one's faith.

Say I'm a Christian. What is there about a tsunami warning that's to be obeyed? Or are you talking about threats. Threats like. . . . .

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[outhouse]

Warnings are meant to be heard and obeyed,

What if some warnings are just lies???

Are lies meant to be obeyed?

 

[feneluscliff]

But the text states that God hardened the Pharaoh's heart. As in, did something with the intent to make the Pharaoh less likely to 'submit'.

I do my best to explain. God himself did not harden his heart. You must look into the text. God is just and love, this doesn't line up with the bible. He in his will allowed the pharaoh to be there because he was prideful and harden in heart, had there been an easy going pharaoh the children of Israel would have said pharaoh delivered them and not God. So God allowed that pharaohs to be there for his people

 

[Riverwolf]

God is just and love, this doesn't line up with the bible.

This statement is true, but in a way that I don't think you intended. The God in the Old Testament, taken at face-value, is a vengeful, jealous-ridden (by his own admission), petulant child. I saw no justice or love outside of selected favoritism in there.

 

[rusra02]

Warnings are meant to be heard and obeyed, if not contrary to one's faith. Warnings are acts of mercy. If heed can save one's life; or stay retribution. Pharaoh the king of Egypt, received his last warning from God, before the death of his firstborn son. Had he heeded the warning he could, have spared the life of his son; but his heart was harden because of the power and majesty of our God, whom he would not acknowledge. We to have been warned of God, in fact our last warning is giving in revelation 14:6-12. Like pharaoh, we are to acknowledge God in obedience to his law and to worship him on his holy Sabbath day, revelation 14:7. For the seventh day Sabbath is our token, and our sign of allegiance to God. Our neglect of this duty is as harden our hearts to God, like pharaoh did. Our life is at stake!

Colossians 2:16,17

 

[feneluscliff]

Colossians 2:16,17

That is reference to the ceremonial law which was done away with at the death of Christ at the cross. The ceremonial pointed to coming of Christ and his death

 

[rusra02]

That is reference to the ceremonial law which was done away with at the death of Christ at the cross. The ceremonial pointed to coming of Christ and his death

I do not agree. To quote: " Therefore, do not let anyone judge you...about the observance...of a sabbath. Those things are a shadow of the things to come, but the reality belongs to the Christ." ( Colossians 2:16,17)

 

[Unification]

Warnings are meant to be heard and obeyed, if not contrary to one's faith. Warnings are acts of mercy. If heed can save one's life; or stay retribution. Pharaoh the king of Egypt, received his last warning from God, before the death of his firstborn son. Had he heeded the warning he could, have spared the life of his son; but his heart was harden because of the power and majesty of our God, whom he would not acknowledge. We to have been warned of God, in fact our last warning is giving in revelation 14:6-12. Like pharaoh, we are to acknowledge God in obedience to his law and to worship him on his holy Sabbath day, revelation 14:7. For the seventh day Sabbath is our token, and our sign of allegiance to God. Our neglect of this duty is as harden our hearts to God, like pharaoh did. Our life is at stake!

Moses and Pharoah are one and the same. Pharoah, being the ego/self/pysche of the mind. Doesn't listen, is prideful, hardened, sits on top of ones own throne within before being humbled and brought low, and crucified after a series of sufferings in the wilderness(experience.)

 

[moorea944]

God hardened Pharaoh's heart to make him understand that there is only one true God. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. And because of that, Moses showed Pharaoh all these miracles from God that his god's couldnt do.

 

[leibowde84]

I will only say this, God didn't really harden his heart. Pride harden his heart because he would not acknowledge the sovereignty of God. He taught himself a god. Each plague harden his heart, because he would not submit. That I why God said he would "harden his heart" the very existence of Jehovah caused his heart to be hard like Lucifer before his fall.

So, the text is wrong then? It clearly says that "God hardened Pharaoh's heart". It doesn't mention pride in that passage. If this is your subjective interpretation, that's all well and good, but it certainly isn't present in the text.

 

[feneluscliff]

There some text of scripture you have to look into for example the creation of man. Genesis 1:26-27 said God created male and female but not the same day according to the account in Genesis chapter 2. So this text is the same you have to look into it to get the full understanding

So, the text is wrong then? It clearly says that "God hardened Pharaoh's heart". It doesn't mention pride in that passage. If this is your subjective interpretation, that's all well and good, but it certainly isn't present in the text.

 

[leibowde84]

There some text of scripture you have to look into for example the creation of man. Genesis 1:26-27 said God created male and female but not the same day according to the account in Genesis chapter 2. So this text is the same you have to look into it to get the full understanding

So, then it is just your subjective opinion/interpretation based on other passages you've read, then?

 

[Unification]

There some text of scripture you have to look into for example the creation of man. Genesis 1:26-27 said God created male and female but not the same day according to the account in Genesis chapter 2. So this text is the same you have to look into it to get the full understanding

The male and female principles of text are not literal guy and girl. All masculine and feminine aspects of text are not literal guy or girl.

If "God" is "Spirit," that would be "being," ability to feel and sense, have aura and sensation. An individual was hardened inside, because they were being and had the ability to BE hardened for their own benefit, the ego working through potential until let go.