outhouse
Atheistically
Yep
Not at all in most cases.
he has often provided links that states islam mopped up the floor with blood
-
Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.
Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:- Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
- Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
- Access to private conversations with other members.
We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!
Was Islam spread by the sword?
- Thread starter ZooGirl02
- Start date
- Status
Yep
Not at all in most cases.
he has often provided links that states islam mopped up the floor with blood
Shad
Veteran Member
It's clear selection bias. Count the hits regardless of sect, ignore all the misses and call it not Islam or Muslims.
cambridge79
Active Member
Nazism wasn't spread by the sword
Today we watch Nazism spread in America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party
Was nazism spread by the sword?
No.
For example:
Spread of nazism in america
: [3]
The statistics for nazism in the u.s.a. estimate a total nazi population of approximately 500
There are several neo-Nazi groups in the United States. The National Socialist Movement (NSM), with about 400 members in 32 states,[155] is currently the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States.[156] After World War II, new organizations formed with varying degrees of support for Nazi principles. The National States' Rights Party, founded in 1958 by Edward Reed Fields and J. B. Stoner countered racial integration in the Southern United States with Nazi-inspired publications and iconography. The American Nazi Party, founded by George Lincoln Rockwell in 1959, achieved high-profile coverage in the press through its public demonstrations.[157]
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, which allows political organizations great latitude in expressing Nazi, racist, and anti-Semitic views. A First Amendment landmark case was National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, in which neo-Nazis threatened to march in a predominantly Jewish suburb of Chicago. The march never took place in Skokie, but the court ruling allowed the neo-Nazis to stage a series of demonstrations in Chicago.
Country/Region
u.s.a.
Nazi population 2015 Pew Report[1]: 500
Nazi percentage (%) of total population 2015 Pew Report[1] :< 0.1
Percentage (%) of World nazi population 2015 Pew Report[1] :< 0.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party
I don't see any sword in spread of nazism in
u.s.a. Do you see any?
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards
Today we watch Nazism spread in America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party
Was nazism spread by the sword?
No.
For example:
Spread of nazism in america
The statistics for nazism in the u.s.a. estimate a total nazi population of approximately 500
There are several neo-Nazi groups in the United States. The National Socialist Movement (NSM), with about 400 members in 32 states,[155] is currently the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States.[156] After World War II, new organizations formed with varying degrees of support for Nazi principles. The National States' Rights Party, founded in 1958 by Edward Reed Fields and J. B. Stoner countered racial integration in the Southern United States with Nazi-inspired publications and iconography. The American Nazi Party, founded by George Lincoln Rockwell in 1959, achieved high-profile coverage in the press through its public demonstrations.[157]
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, which allows political organizations great latitude in expressing Nazi, racist, and anti-Semitic views. A First Amendment landmark case was National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, in which neo-Nazis threatened to march in a predominantly Jewish suburb of Chicago. The march never took place in Skokie, but the court ruling allowed the neo-Nazis to stage a series of demonstrations in Chicago.
Country/Region
Nazi population 2015 Pew Report[1]: 500
Nazi percentage (%) of total population 2015 Pew Report[1] :< 0.1
Percentage (%) of World nazi population 2015 Pew Report[1] :< 0.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party
I don't see any sword in spread of nazism in
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards
cambridge79
Active Member
this should either prove that nazism wasn't spread by the sword or make him stop him doing his thing.
But knowing him i'm pretty sure this will be definitely ignored, misrepresented or misunderstood, just to prove once more how in his heart is more important to annoy other people with his copy&paste thing than the actual honesty of the argument he uses.
But knowing him i'm pretty sure this will be definitely ignored, misrepresented or misunderstood, just to prove once more how in his heart is more important to annoy other people with his copy&paste thing than the actual honesty of the argument he uses.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Nazism wasn't spread by the sword
Today we watch Nazism spread in America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party
Was nazism spread by the sword?
No.
For example:
Spread of nazism in america: [3]
The statistics for nazism in the u.s.a. estimate a total nazi population of approximately 500
There are several neo-Nazi groups in the United States. The National Socialist Movement (NSM), with about 400 members in 32 states,[155] is currently the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States.[156] After World War II, new organizations formed with varying degrees of support for Nazi principles. The National States' Rights Party, founded in 1958 by Edward Reed Fields and J. B. Stoner countered racial integration in the Southern United States with Nazi-inspired publications and iconography. The American Nazi Party, founded by George Lincoln Rockwell in 1959, achieved high-profile coverage in the press through its public demonstrations.[157]
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, which allows political organizations great latitude in expressing Nazi, racist, and anti-Semitic views. A First Amendment landmark case was National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, in which neo-Nazis threatened to march in a predominantly Jewish suburb of Chicago. The march never took place in Skokie, but the court ruling allowed the neo-Nazis to stage a series of demonstrations in Chicago.
Country/Regionu.s.a.
Nazi population 2015 Pew Report[1]: 500
Nazi percentage (%) of total population 2015 Pew Report[1] :< 0.1
Percentage (%) of World nazi population 2015 Pew Report[1] :< 0.1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party
I don't see any sword in spread of nazism inu.s.a. Do you see any?
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards
Wonderful.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
@ cambridge79Wonderful.
Did Nazism spread with sword in America? You both must be well versed in this regard. Please
Regards
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
It didn't. And we can take this as a sure sign that if it didn't spread in America by the sword it didn't spread to any nation in history by the sword. Sword is only ever a hindrance in the spread of Nazism.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Further to Posts #2717, #2720 , #2722, and #2942 in response to OP's Post #1 I have to add:
Those who doubt that Islam spread peacefully in times of Muhammad they should focus on spread of Ahmadiyya true Islam, If it has happened now peacefully, it should be a clear sign for the doubtful that Islam spread peacefully in times of Muhammad.
I gave how Ahmadiyya spread peacefully in Argentina post #2430, Australia Post #2460 , Austria Post #2489, Bangladesh Post #2513, Belarus Post #2535, Belgium Post#2556, Belize #2571, Bulgaria Post #2595, Cameroon Post #2619, Canada Post #2636,Chad Post #2651,Congo #2672, Denmark #2703, Egypt #2824, Fiji #2883, France #2942, Germany #3025 .
Jamia Ahmadiyya International, Ghana
BRIEF HISTORY OF
JAMIA AHMADIYYA
INTERNATIONAL
Established in 1906
In Ghana: Since 21 March 1966 as Ahmadiyya Muslim Missionary Training College
As Jamia Ahmadiyya Int. Ghana Since 26th August 2012
http://www.jamiaghana.org/about/
It is a missionary training school or a seminary of Ahmadiyya. Ahmadiyya has established many such seminaries in different part of the world. some of them are:
[9:122]It is not possible for the believers to go forth all together. Why, then, does not a party from every section of them go forth that they may become well versed in religion, and that they may warn their people when they return to them, so that they may guardagainst evil?
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=9&verse=122
Ahmadiyya has spread peacefully far and wide around 207 countries of the world by these trained teachers/missionaries in religion, as it did in the times of Muhammad and after.
This is a fact, must be remembered by our friends.
Country/Region:
Ghana
Ahmadiyya population : 635,000*
Percentage (%) of Muslims :16.0
Percentage (%) of population :2.5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_by_country
*
Ghana's Muslims have previously raised concern over the census figures which states that 17% of Ghanaians belong to the Muslim faith. It is claimed that Muslims represent somewhere between 30 and 45% of Ghana. Under this, the Ahmadiyya population would number almost 2 million. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community itself gives an estimate of over 2 million Ahmadis in Ghana. See:
"Muslims cry foul over population figures". News From Africa. Retrieved April 30, 2014.
Does one see any sword used for spread of Ahmadiyya true Islam in
Ghana ?
Regards
Those who doubt that Islam spread peacefully in times of Muhammad they should focus on spread of Ahmadiyya true Islam, If it has happened now peacefully, it should be a clear sign for the doubtful that Islam spread peacefully in times of Muhammad.
I gave how Ahmadiyya spread peacefully in Argentina post #2430, Australia Post #2460 , Austria Post #2489, Bangladesh Post #2513, Belarus Post #2535, Belgium Post#2556, Belize #2571, Bulgaria Post #2595, Cameroon Post #2619, Canada Post #2636,Chad Post #2651,Congo #2672, Denmark #2703, Egypt #2824, Fiji #2883, France #2942, Germany #3025 .
- Now I give peaceful spread of Ahmadiyya true Islam in
Ghana. [2]
Jamia Ahmadiyya International, Ghana
BRIEF HISTORY OF
JAMIA AHMADIYYA
INTERNATIONAL
Established in 1906
In Ghana: Since 21 March 1966 as Ahmadiyya Muslim Missionary Training College
As Jamia Ahmadiyya Int. Ghana Since 26th August 2012
http://www.jamiaghana.org/about/
It is a missionary training school or a seminary of Ahmadiyya. Ahmadiyya has established many such seminaries in different part of the world. some of them are:
- Qadian, India
- Rabwah, Pakistan
- London, England
- Toronta, Canada
- Ghana.
[9:122]It is not possible for the believers to go forth all together. Why, then, does not a party from every section of them go forth that they may become well versed in religion, and that they may warn their people when they return to them, so that they may guardagainst evil?
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?submitCh=Read+from+verse%3A&ch=9&verse=122
Ahmadiyya has spread peacefully far and wide around 207 countries of the world by these trained teachers/missionaries in religion, as it did in the times of Muhammad and after.
This is a fact, must be remembered by our friends.
Country/Region:
Ahmadiyya population : 635,000*
Percentage (%) of Muslims :16.0
Percentage (%) of population :2.5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya_by_country
*
Ghana's Muslims have previously raised concern over the census figures which states that 17% of Ghanaians belong to the Muslim faith. It is claimed that Muslims represent somewhere between 30 and 45% of Ghana. Under this, the Ahmadiyya population would number almost 2 million. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community itself gives an estimate of over 2 million Ahmadis in Ghana. See:
"Muslims cry foul over population figures". News From Africa. Retrieved April 30, 2014.
Does one see any sword used for spread of Ahmadiyya true Islam in
Regards
Last edited:
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Do friend Flankerl and friend cambridge79 also agree with it?
What about Judaism and Atheism? Please
Regards
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Paarsurrey wrote: Post #3089
What about Judaism and Atheism? Please
Regards
What about Judaism and Atheism? Please
Did Judaism and Atheism spread with sword? Please
Regards
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
cambridge79
Active Member
In america? It absolutely didn't.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
That is correct.
As you have informed us , the members of this forum, it has spread to 500 persons. In how many years? Is Nazism a truthful world-view? Please
Regards
Last edited:
cambridge79
Active Member
you just showed us that in chile there are only 4000 muslims, and islam had 1500 years to spread. So by your own logic ( i know assuming you have a logic is ironically a big leap of faith ) islam is an even more false doctrine than nazism.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
To add to post r#3072,#3073:
Muhammad did not use any traps for anybody, he rather freed people from the shackles they were in not in their arms and feet but in their necks. Quran mention it:
[36:8]Surely the word has proved true against most of them, for they believe not.
[36:9]We have put round their necks, chains reaching unto the chins, so that their heads are forced up.
[36:10]And We have set a barrier before them and a barrier behind them, and have covered them over, so that they cannot see.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=36&verse=0
So, friend Flankerl is wrong to describe the phenomenon. Please
Regards
McBell
Unbound
Nope.
Flankerl hit the nail right square on the head.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Was Islam spread by the sword?
No.
Islam did not spread by sword. In fact sword is a hindrance in the way of spread of Islam. Quran provides both commandments and the gist of wisdom of the same; this peculiarity is not retained in book of any other revealed religion.Islam flourishes most in peace with its strong reasonable and rational arguments.
For example:
Further to post #258
Spread of Islam in
China: [2]
The Huaisheng Mosque is a mosque, whose construction is attributed to the Prophet Muhammad's second cousin, Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas
While modern secular historians tend to say that there is no evidence for Waqqās himself ever coming to China,[12] they do believe that Muslim diplomats and merchants came to Tang China within a few decades from the beginning of the Muslim Era.[12] The Tang Dynasty's cosmopolitan culture, with its intensive contacts with Central Asia and its significant communities of (originally non-Muslim) Central and Western Asian merchants resident in Chinese cities, which helped the introduction of Islam.[12] The first major Muslim settlements in China consisted of Araband Persian merchants.[13] During the Tang and especially the Song eras, comparatively well-established, even if somewhat segregated, mercantile Muslim communities existed in the port cities of Guangzhou, Quanzhou, and Hangzhou on China's southeastern seaboard, as well as in the interior centers such as Chang'an, Kaifeng, and Yangzhou.[14] After critical analysis, it is evident that Saad ibn abi Waqqas and the three other Sahabas who were preaching from 616-18 were noticed by Emperor Wu-De by 618 AD. Guangzhou is home to four mosques, including the famous Huaisheng Mosque believed to have been built by Saad ibn Abi Waqqas, the second cousin of Muhammad. The city also has a grave believed to be that of ibn Abi Waqqas (father of Sa'd ibn abi Waqqas).[15]
Islam was brought to China during the Tang dynasty by Arab traders, who were primarily concerned with trading and commerce, and not concerned at all with spreading Islam. They did not try to convert Chinese at all and only did commerce. It was because of this low profile that the 845 anti-Buddhist edict during the Great Anti-Buddhist Persecution said absolutely nothing about Islam.[16] It seems that trade occupied the attention of the early Muslim settlers rather than religious propagandism; that while they observed the tenets and practised the rites of their faith in China, they did not undertake any strenuous campaign against either Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, or the State creed, and that they constituted a floating rather than a fixed element of the population, coming and going between China and the West by the oversea or the overland routes.[17][18]
Guang Ta minaret, Huaisheng Mosque, Guangzhou, China. According to tradition, the mosque was founded in 627. The minaret was built in the 10th century. Photograph by Felice Beato, April 1860.
Song dynasty[edit]
By the time of the Song Dynasty, Muslims had come to play a major role in the import/export industry.[10][14] The office of Director General of Shipping was consistently held by a Muslim during this period.[19] In 1070, the Song emperor Shenzong invited 5,300 Muslim men from Bukhara, to settle in China in order to create a buffer zone between the Chinese and the Liao empire in the northeast. Later on these men were settled between the Sung capital of Kaifeng and Yenching (modern day Beijing).[20] They were led by Prince Amir Sayyid "So-fei-er" (his Chinese name) who was reputed of being called the "father" of the Muslim community in China. Prior to him Islam was named by the Tang and Song Chinese as Dashi fa ("law of the Arabs").[21] He renamed it to Huihui Jiao ("the Religion of the Huihui").[22]
The tombs of Sa-Ke-Zu and Wu-Ko-Shun at Mount Lingshan, Quanzhou
"On the foothills of Mount Lingshan are the tombs of two of the four companions that Prophet Muhammad sent eastwards to preach Islam. Known as the "Holy Tombs," they house the companions Sa-Ke-Zu and Wu-Ko-Shun—their Chinese names, of course. The other two companions went to Guangzhou and Yangzhou." [23] The Imam Asim, also spelt Hashim, is said to have been one of the first Islamic missionaries in the region of China. He was a man of c.1000 CE in Hotan. The shrine site includes the reputed tomb of the Imam, a mosque, and several related tombs. [24] There is also a mazaar of Imam Zafar Sadiq.[25]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China
Country/Region:
China
Muslim population 2010 Pew Report[1]:23,308,000
Muslim percentage (%) of total population 2010 Pew Report[1] :1.8
Percentage (%) of World Muslim population 2010 Pew Report[1] :1.4
Muslim Population Other Sources : 50,000,000[49]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country
I don't see any sword in spread of Islam in
China . Do you see any?
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards
No.
Islam did not spread by sword. In fact sword is a hindrance in the way of spread of Islam. Quran provides both commandments and the gist of wisdom of the same; this peculiarity is not retained in book of any other revealed religion.Islam flourishes most in peace with its strong reasonable and rational arguments.
For example:
Further to post #258
Spread of Islam in
China: [2]
The Huaisheng Mosque is a mosque, whose construction is attributed to the Prophet Muhammad's second cousin, Sa`d ibn Abi Waqqas
While modern secular historians tend to say that there is no evidence for Waqqās himself ever coming to China,[12] they do believe that Muslim diplomats and merchants came to Tang China within a few decades from the beginning of the Muslim Era.[12] The Tang Dynasty's cosmopolitan culture, with its intensive contacts with Central Asia and its significant communities of (originally non-Muslim) Central and Western Asian merchants resident in Chinese cities, which helped the introduction of Islam.[12] The first major Muslim settlements in China consisted of Araband Persian merchants.[13] During the Tang and especially the Song eras, comparatively well-established, even if somewhat segregated, mercantile Muslim communities existed in the port cities of Guangzhou, Quanzhou, and Hangzhou on China's southeastern seaboard, as well as in the interior centers such as Chang'an, Kaifeng, and Yangzhou.[14] After critical analysis, it is evident that Saad ibn abi Waqqas and the three other Sahabas who were preaching from 616-18 were noticed by Emperor Wu-De by 618 AD. Guangzhou is home to four mosques, including the famous Huaisheng Mosque believed to have been built by Saad ibn Abi Waqqas, the second cousin of Muhammad. The city also has a grave believed to be that of ibn Abi Waqqas (father of Sa'd ibn abi Waqqas).[15]
Islam was brought to China during the Tang dynasty by Arab traders, who were primarily concerned with trading and commerce, and not concerned at all with spreading Islam. They did not try to convert Chinese at all and only did commerce. It was because of this low profile that the 845 anti-Buddhist edict during the Great Anti-Buddhist Persecution said absolutely nothing about Islam.[16] It seems that trade occupied the attention of the early Muslim settlers rather than religious propagandism; that while they observed the tenets and practised the rites of their faith in China, they did not undertake any strenuous campaign against either Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, or the State creed, and that they constituted a floating rather than a fixed element of the population, coming and going between China and the West by the oversea or the overland routes.[17][18]
Guang Ta minaret, Huaisheng Mosque, Guangzhou, China. According to tradition, the mosque was founded in 627. The minaret was built in the 10th century. Photograph by Felice Beato, April 1860.
Song dynasty[edit]
By the time of the Song Dynasty, Muslims had come to play a major role in the import/export industry.[10][14] The office of Director General of Shipping was consistently held by a Muslim during this period.[19] In 1070, the Song emperor Shenzong invited 5,300 Muslim men from Bukhara, to settle in China in order to create a buffer zone between the Chinese and the Liao empire in the northeast. Later on these men were settled between the Sung capital of Kaifeng and Yenching (modern day Beijing).[20] They were led by Prince Amir Sayyid "So-fei-er" (his Chinese name) who was reputed of being called the "father" of the Muslim community in China. Prior to him Islam was named by the Tang and Song Chinese as Dashi fa ("law of the Arabs").[21] He renamed it to Huihui Jiao ("the Religion of the Huihui").[22]
The tombs of Sa-Ke-Zu and Wu-Ko-Shun at Mount Lingshan, Quanzhou
"On the foothills of Mount Lingshan are the tombs of two of the four companions that Prophet Muhammad sent eastwards to preach Islam. Known as the "Holy Tombs," they house the companions Sa-Ke-Zu and Wu-Ko-Shun—their Chinese names, of course. The other two companions went to Guangzhou and Yangzhou." [23] The Imam Asim, also spelt Hashim, is said to have been one of the first Islamic missionaries in the region of China. He was a man of c.1000 CE in Hotan. The shrine site includes the reputed tomb of the Imam, a mosque, and several related tombs. [24] There is also a mazaar of Imam Zafar Sadiq.[25]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China
Country/Region:
ChinaMuslim population 2010 Pew Report[1]:23,308,000
Muslim percentage (%) of total population 2010 Pew Report[1] :1.8
Percentage (%) of World Muslim population 2010 Pew Report[1] :1.4
Muslim Population Other Sources : 50,000,000[49]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country
I don't see any sword in spread of Islam in
China . Do you see any?Please correct me if I am wrong.
Regards
morphesium
Active Member
Those ISIS people live exactly like "Prophet Mohammmed" (copying his life in all possible ways). The only difference is that in place of the sword, they use modern amnuation.
For every word that goes for peace in Koran, there are 50 versus that goes againt it. The followers of this religion (ofcourse with exceptions) are the most intolerant people especially towards other religion.
This is an evil religion which has eliminated many other great and peaceful civilizations from the face of earth through shear violence and trickery.
This is a rabid religion that spreads by sword and propagates by brainwashing. This religion has no virtues - it is a hindrance to science and technology and it is destined to take humanity to dark ages.
Every culture that has a Muslim population is under serious threat.
Last edited:
- Status