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Was it wrong for Maxine Waters to call for Mob violence against conservative politicians

Was it wrong for Maxine Waters to encourage mob violence against some conservatives

  • It was Wrong

    Votes: 8 42.1%
  • It was not Wrong

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • She did not encourage violence

    Votes: 8 42.1%
  • Business do not have to serve people with political views

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • It is unimportant to be civil to people you disagree with strongly

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Respect and civility is a two way street

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • She was unwise in choice of words but she did not mean to stir up violence

    Votes: 6 31.6%

  • Total voters
    19
  • Poll closed .

tytlyf

Not Religious
Investigative reporter Michele Malkin says Maxine Waters has a history of such
Muddy Maxine Waters: What a Riot, by Michelle Malkin
Oh, Michelle Malkin is an investigative reporter now? lmao. We call her mouthy Malkin and Fox trots her out during election seasons. Do you have a real investigative reporter?

Michelle Malkin (née Maglalang; born October 20, 1970) is an American conservative blogger, political commentator, and author.[1][2]
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Oh, Michelle Malkin is an investigative reporter now? lmao. We call her mouthy Malkin and Fox trots her out during election seasons. Do you have a real investigative reporter?


from investors.com

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Waters has always been a fan of mob action. She infamously touted the violent and brutal 1992 Los Angeles riots, which did approximately $1 billion in property damage and ended with 63 people dead. Waters called the events a "rebellion," labeling them a "spontaneous reaction to a lot of injustice and a lot of alienation and frustration." And yet Waters has been affectionately nicknamed "Auntie Maxine" thanks to her rabid attacks against the Trump administration.

Democratic leaders ranging from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., denounced Waters' words. They've done the same with regard to violent protests on college campuses. That is meritorious and deserves praise.
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Maxine Waters And The Rise Of The Mob
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
And the idiots at FOX accomplish another propaganda success !
Putin and his cohorts are adding to this rubbish pile of garbage,
and the rest of the world are laughing in their rivers of tears,
it is terribly sad, as is the corruption in the Trump machine !
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
from investors.com

quote
Waters has always been a fan of mob action. She infamously touted the violent and brutal 1992 Los Angeles riots, which did approximately $1 billion in property damage and ended with 63 people dead. Waters called the events a "rebellion," labeling them a "spontaneous reaction to a lot of injustice and a lot of alienation and frustration." And yet Waters has been affectionately nicknamed "Auntie Maxine" thanks to her rabid attacks against the Trump administration.

Democratic leaders ranging from House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., denounced Waters' words. They've done the same with regard to violent protests on college campuses. That is meritorious and deserves praise.
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Maxine Waters And The Rise Of The Mob
You should see Trump's record. Waters didn't call for violence like Trump did. False equivalence. At least you see that RW entertainment outlets are spreading fake news as usual.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
So should not Maxine be charged with inciting a riot, if her sheeple follow her advice?

Inciting A Riot


18 U.S. Code § 2102 - Definitions


riot” means a public disturbance involving (1) an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons, which act or acts shall constitute a clear and present danger of, or shall result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual or (2) a threat or threats of the commission of an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons having, individually or collectively, the ability of immediate execution of such threat or threats, where the performance of the threatened act or acts of violence would constitute a clear and present danger of, or would result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual.
riot”, or “to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot”, includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.
(Added Pub. L. 90–284, title I, § 104(a), Apr. 11, 1968, 82 Stat. 76.)
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Maxine Waters And The Rise Of The Mob
Which was written as an opinion piece by Ben Shapiro, who is a self-identified conservative who is very controversial, to say the least. Why do you so often use these right-wing sources?

IMO, it's fine to read and sometimes quote them, but then let me suggest you double-check with other sources that are more objective.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
I'm really amazed with anyone that honors what was said by John F. Kennedy in his inaugural speech would follow the ridiculous crap espoused by Trump and his followers.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
WOW....that gives new meaning to everything,
like in Trump's mirrors of everything upside side and backwards.
Is that really right ?? You wouldn't kid me would you ??
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Donald Trump said to knock the oops out of protesters, and?
... you think that's Christian? Sorry, but you must be confusing Jesus with some thug-- maybe Jesus the Ripper?

And it also begs the question as to whether you believe in Jesus or just some things about him? Remember the Parable of the Sheep & Goats (Matthew 25)?

Maybe think about this at services this weekend if you decide to go, and maybe ask you pastor about the above.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Waters addressed a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday and told a crowd: “If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them! And you tell them that they are not welcome, anymore, anywhere.”
That isn't an incitement to violence.

Didn't Trump ask people to knock the crap out of protesters at his rallies?
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
It seems uncivil and not appropriate and encourages more of the same
good leadership? Sadly no.

Has the democratic party lost it's way?

Quote
Judicial Watch sent a hand-delivered letter Monday to the chairman and co-chairman of the House Office of Congressional Ethics calling for an investigation into whether Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., violated House ethics rules by encouraging violence against Trump administration Cabinet members.

The Office of Congressional Ethics describes itself on its website as “an independent, non-partisan entity charged with reviewing allegations of misconduct against Members, officers, and staff of the U.S. House of Representatives and, when appropriate, referring matters to the House Committee on Ethics.”

Waters addressed a rally in Los Angeles on Saturday and told a crowd: “If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them! And you tell them that they are not welcome, anymore, anywhere.”
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Tom Fitton: Maxine Waters should be investigated for encouraging violence against Trump officials

Is there anything Democrats learned from the debacle?
Granted Trump is not excelling in Diplomacy but Democrats are losing big at civility and honesty
I honestly see nothing wrong in what she said. How is it wrong to encourage people to protest? Do you think protests should only ever occur at designated places or when convenient to those being protested? Civil disobedience isn’t supposed to be pleasant.

Sure, her words were politically unwise, especially knowing that republicans and fox and trump are waiting to pounce on any slightest thing, oblivious to their own hypocrisy. But oh well, haters gonna hate.
 

Tammie

Member
Falvlun said:
I honestly see nothing wrong in what she said. How is it wrong to encourage people to protest? Do you think protests should only ever occur at designated places or when convenient to those being protested? Civil disobedience isn’t supposed to be pleasant.

Sure, her words were politically unwise, especially knowing that republicans and fox and trump are waiting to pounce on any slightest thing, oblivious to their own hypocrisy. But oh well, haters gonna hate.


I think anyone has the right to their opinion, but when you tell someone they are not welcome in a business because you do not agree with their opinion....then it does create a hypocrisy in the ideals of free speech. That you only agree if they agree with you. In most cases, I see this as bullying. To get a crowd together and run them out....really? What ever happened to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

This may backbite the far left because if any are elected, they may have to face the same thing.

Didn't Obama tell his crowd to get in their face or do anything they have to ...to make them change. This has been a long time issue with both parties. I believe both parties need to tone down the message so that no violence happens because of it.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I am a fan of Maxine Waters, but this was a big mistake. I don’t think she meant to encourage violence, but her words were reckless and could possibly be dangerous, not only to the Trump people being confronted, but also to those doing the confronting.
But, yet when someone says words matter and have power you get dismissed as a snowflake. Liberals and Democrats need to start defending themselves some instead of bowing to Republican pressure. Instead of saying "oops, I'm sorry," they need to play hardball. Unfortunately someone did interpreter incorrectly, and the idea exploded. But so what? Own up to it.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
I think anyone has the right to their opinion, but when you tell someone they are not welcome in a business because you do not agree with their opinion....then it does create a hypocrisy in the ideals of free speech. That you only agree if they agree with you. In most cases, I see this as bullying. To get a crowd together and run them out....really? What ever happened to "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

This may backbite the far left because if any are elected, they may have to face the same thing.

Didn't Obama tell his crowd to get in their face or do anything they have to ...to make them change. This has been a long time issue with both parties. I believe both parties need to tone down the message so that no violence happens because of it.
As I said in my post, I make a distinction between the average voter and an elected official— and I think Maxine was only referring to the latter. In the case of an elected official, it’s not simply disagreeing with their political opinion. It is protesting the policies and actions that they are actually doing.

As for free speech, I don’t see the relevance. The Sarah huckabee sanders of the world are perfectly free to their speech. That doesn’t mean they are free from the consequences of that speech.

As for it coming back to bite the democrats— honestly, the democrats have been facing much much worse over the last two decades. The republicans have not been holding their punches, while we’ve been meekly “going high when they go low” and trying to maintain decorum. No. This is Democrats biting back the Republicans.
 
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