Was Jesus crucified on a Friday or on any other day of the week?

[peacecrusader888]

As an opinion, I'm not sure that qualifies. First, we are the ones that are defining what "omnipotence" is. For all I know, our definition is wrong. If He is omnipotent, why can He self-impose limits? If He can't make self imposed limits, then we could say He isn't omnipotent.

@KenS
I believe God is omnipotent, almighty, having all power, all powerful. He is very good. He has given each of us a freewill (Revelation 3:20) that we can do what we would like to do here on earth. We can even not recognize Him, like an atheist. He is watching from a distance. What we do, we will pay in the end when God rewards those who listened to Him and obeyed, and sends to Hell those who disobeyed, like murderers, liars (Revelation 21:8). So it is high time that we change our wrong and evil ways (“magbagong buhay”) and change our wrong ideas about Jesus (“magbagong akala”).

 

[Kolibri]

??? Jesus is also the "Mighty God".

Yes, a Mighty God. Is not Jesus a powerful one among power ones? That does not mean he is the all-powerful one, does it?

 

[peacecrusader888]

Please tell us what Jesus said about the heart at Matthew 15:19

What is written about the heart at Jeremiah 17:9 ?

@URAVIP2ME
This is what Jesus said in Matthew 15:19, “For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.”
This is Jeremiah 17:9, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”

Did you know that God and Satan are in you, in your heart? Not because we talk about the heart, the heart is evil. Revelation 3:20 states, “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.” So we can let God in to the door of our heart or shut Him out. It depends upon us. The spirit of Ama said, “If you want to be evil, it will come from you. If you want to healed, it will come from you.” (Kung ibig mong sumama (to be evil), sa iyo magmumula. Kung ibig mong gumaling, sa iyo manggagaling.)

If we do evil things, God will back away and let Satan rule us. If we obey God and let Him live in our heart, Satan will not have any room there and God will prevail. So let us listen to God and obey what He says in the Holy Bible, the word of God.

 

[Kenny]

Yes, a Mighty God. Is not Jesus a powerful one among power ones? That does not mean he is the all-powerful one, does it?

In as much as God said "There are no other gods" - there can only be one.

Ps 50:1 The Mighty One, God, the LORD, speaks and summons the earth from the rising of the sun to the place where it sets.

I guess this means that God is not almighty?

 

[Kolibri]

In as much as God said "There are no other gods" - there can only be one.

Ps 50:1 The Mighty One, God, the LORD, speaks and summons the earth from the rising of the sun to the place where it sets.

I guess this means that God is not almighty?

Might is relative. And all "god" means is "mighty one" or "strong one". One can be Mighty while not being Almighty, and yet Almighty is always Mighty.
The fact that Jesus carries the title "Mighty God" in no way makes him "Almighty God".

The difference can be found in Psalm 95:3

For Jehovah is a great God,
A great King over all other gods.
- Psalm 95:3

No where is Jesus called almighty in scripture. At most he has been acknowledged as mighty.

 

[Kenny]

Might is relative. And all "god" means is "mighty one" or "strong one". One can be Mighty while not being Almighty, and yet Almighty is always Mighty.
The fact that Jesus carries the title "Mighty God" in no way makes him "Almighty God".

The difference can be found in Psalm 95:3

For Jehovah is a great God,
A great King over all other gods.
- Psalm 95:3

No where is Jesus called almighty in scripture. At most he has been acknowledged as mighty.

Rev 1
7 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

We know that it isn't the Father that is to come but rather the Lord and God Jesus Christ.

And God does not mean "mighty one" in any definition that I have found.

 

[RedDragon94]

It is true that in Christian theology Christ gave up certain divine prerogratives (all knowing, all powerful) in order to better identify with man. (Philippians 2) This doesn't mean that Jesus didn't have any power or that Jesus wasn't divine. Jesus claims in John 10:30 that he and the Father are one and that anything he sees the Father doing he does also, but the difference is that Jesus did everything under the authority of the Father as the Son, he wasn't completely autonomous. I may be wrong about this.

 

[Kenny]

It is true that in Christian theology Christ gave up certain divine prerogratives (all knowing, all powerful) in order to better identify with man. (Philippians 2) This doesn't mean that Jesus didn't have any power or that Jesus wasn't divine. Jesus claims in John 10:30 that he and the Father are one and that anything he sees the Father doing he does also, but the difference is that Jesus did everything under the authority of the Father as the Son, he wasn't completely autonomous. I may be wrong about this.

You are correct.

 

[peacecrusader888]

"I am " is Not the Tetragrammaton standing for YHWH and never will be.
Who are the two LORD/Lord's at Psalm 110:1 ?____________
In KJV Bibles the LORD ( all upper-case letters) is where the Tetragrammaton name stands.
In KJV Bibles the Lord ( in some lower-case letters ) never does the Tetragrammaton appear.

What does John write about Jesus at Revelation1:5; 3:14 B ?
Doesn't John write Jesus is the beginning of the creation by God ?________

According to Psalm 90 v 2 God had No beginning.
That means God is the only One before the beginning.
Jesus is Not before the beginning as God is before the beginning.
Jesus is the beginning of the creation by God according to Rev. 3:14

@URAVIP2ME
The Holy Bible does not talk about Tetragrammaton. What is there are God’s names—Jehovah, I am that I am, Jesus.

This is what Psalm 110:1 state, “The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.” Who are the two LORD/Lord? As what the spirit of Ama said, there is the Trinity (PAHAYAG NG ESPIRITU SANTO - 036) , God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. God made Himself into three but there is only one God. The decision-maker is God the Father. The one asked is God the Son. God the Holy Spirit is the answer.

David said in Psalm 110:1, “The LORD said unto my Lord”. Who is the LORD? I believe He is God the Father. Who is the Lord? I believe He is God the Son.

This is Revelation 1:5, “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.” And this is Revelation 3:14b, “These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.”

Who is Jesus Christ? I believe and said that Jesus Christ is true God and true man. Man was created in the image of God, in His likeness. What is God? God is a spirit. And that is what we are—spirit. So Jesus Christ was a man with physical body and spirit. The physical body is what we know Jesus Christ. But the spirit that was in Jesus Christ was God Himself. Isaiah 7:14 says, “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” Also, in Isaiah 9:6, it says, “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” Who was born to us? Jesus. Who was His mother? Mary. Jesus is called the Son of man because Mary was a human being. Who was His Father? God. He is called the Son of God because His Father was God. Yes, the man Jesus died.

Saul of Tarsus, in his journey to Damascus, asked in Acts 9:5, “Who art thou, Lord?” And the Lord said, “I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.” Did he see anyone when he fell to the earth and a light from heaven shined round him? Why did Saul say Lord when he did not see anyone? What was Jesus this time? A spirit!

 

[Kolibri]

Rev 1
7 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."

We know that it isn't the Father that is to come but rather the Lord and God Jesus Christ.

And God does not mean "mighty one" in any definition that I have found.

We know that verse 7 is in reference to Jesus. But that does not mean that verse 8 is.

Barnes' Notes on the New Testament (1974) observes: "It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer meant to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically here...There is no incongruity in supposing, also, that the writer here meant to refer to God as such.

Re 21:6 also has the speaker apply Alpha and Omega to himself. While yet speaking this one says: "Anyone conquering will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be my son." (verse 7)

Jesus refers to these ones as "brothers" not "sons" so the speaker is not Jesus, but his Father, Jehovah. (Mt 25:40; Heb 2:10-12)

The reference to Alpha and Omega in Re 1:11 in the KJV is known to be spurious, so it doesn't count.

 

[Kenny]

We know that verse 7 is in reference to Jesus. But that does not mean that verse 8 is.

Barnes' Notes on the New Testament (1974) observes: "It cannot be absolutely certain that the writer meant to refer to the Lord Jesus specifically here...There is no incongruity in supposing, also, that the writer here meant to refer to God as such.

Re 21:6 also has the speaker apply Alpha and Omega to himself. While yet speaking this one says: "Anyone conquering will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be my son." (verse 7)

Jesus refers to these ones as "brothers" not "sons" so the speaker is not Jesus, but his Father, Jehovah. (Mt 25:40; Heb 2:10-12)

The reference to Alpha and Omega in Re 1:11 in the KJV is known to be spurious, so it doesn't count.

I'm sorry, but that cannot be right.

vs 7 says "the one who was, who is and is to come. The Father is not the one who is to come. Additionally, this is Jesus who is speaking to the churches not to mention that it would not flow logically to change the person who is speaking.

It is forcing a square peg into a round hole

 

[URAVIP2ME]

@URAVIP2ME
The Holy Bible does not talk about Tetragrammaton. What is there are God’s names—Jehovah, I am that I am, Jesus.

This is what Psalm 110:1 state, “The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.” Who are the two LORD/Lord? As what the spirit of Ama said, there is the Trinity (PAHAYAG NG ESPIRITU SANTO - 036) , God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. God made Himself into three but there is only one God. The decision-maker is God the Father. The one asked is God the Son. God the Holy Spirit is the answer.

David said in Psalm 110:1, “The LORD said unto my Lord”. Who is the LORD? I believe He is God the Father. Who is the Lord? I believe He is God the Son.

This is Revelation 1:5, “And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.” And this is Revelation 3:14b, “These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.”

Who is Jesus Christ? I believe and said that Jesus Christ is true God and true man. Man was created in the image of God, in His likeness. What is God? God is a spirit. And that is what we are—spirit. So Jesus Christ was a man with physical body and spirit. The physical body is what we know Jesus Christ. But the spirit that was in Jesus Christ was God Himself. Isaiah 7:14 says, “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” Also, in Isaiah 9:6, it says, “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” Who was born to us? Jesus. Who was His mother? Mary. Jesus is called the Son of man because Mary was a human being. Who was His Father? God. He is called the Son of God because His Father was God. Yes, the man Jesus died.

Saul of Tarsus, in his journey to Damascus, asked in Acts 9:5, “Who art thou, Lord?” And the Lord said, “I am Jesus whom thou persecutest.” Did he see anyone when he fell to the earth and a light from heaven shined round him? Why did Saul say Lord when he did not see anyone? What was Jesus this time? A spirit!

Yes, because Jesus was resurrected back in his pre-human spirit body, then who was talking to Saul/Paul was the resurrected spirit Jesus as his Lord. Not LORD YHWH

When is the Tetragrammaton ever applied to Lord Jesus ?
The Tetragrammaton is Not applied to Lord Jesus at Psalm 110:1
Just like 'Almighty ' is Not applied to Lord Jesus, but 'Mighty ' is applied to Lord Jesus

Who resurrected the dead Jesus out of hell? __________Acts 3:15; 13 vs 30,37

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Jesus refers to these ones as "brothers" not "sons" so the speaker is not Jesus, but his Father, Jehovah. (Mt 25:40; Heb 2:10-12)

That is an interesting thought ^above^ because if Jesus was Father then the brothers would be called sons and Not be addressed as his brothers. Who is equal in a family arrangement but brothers ( Jesus and his brothers ) all having the same Father.

Could God be firstborn among many ' brothers ' ? - Romans 8:29 B

Also, the ' sheep' of Matthew 25:31,32 are Not Jesus' spiritual brothers of verse 40.
Yet the sheep are judged as righteous - verse 37- by how they have treated Jesus' spiritual brothers of verse 40.

 

[Kolibri]

I'm sorry, but that cannot be right.

vs 7 says "the one who was, who is and is to come. The Father is not the one who is to come. Additionally, this is Jesus who is speaking to the churches not to mention that it would not flow logically to change the person who is speaking.

It is forcing a square peg into a round hole

Who is speaking in verse 7? Is it not John? (Re 1:4) He is not the Alpha and Omega, surely.
7 was about Jesus - not Jesus' words. Vs 8 is obviously a new speaker. And vs 9 returns to John as being the one speaking.

 

[Kenny]

Who is speaking in verse 7? Is it not John? (Re 1:4) He is not the Alpha and Omega, surely.
7 was about Jesus - not Jesus' words. Vs 8 is obviously a new speaker. And vs 9 returns to John as being the one speaking.

John is simply writing down what he was told to write. "Is to come" is a designation of Jesus Christ who is to come to reign. You can't look at it any other way.

 

[rstrats]

Kolibri,
You have a question directed to you in post #39.

 

[Kolibri]

Kolibri,
You have a question directed to you in post #39.

I am sorry @rstrats , I answered this in post #46, I quoted @peacecrusader888 who quoted you. Next time I'll make sure to include your name outside of the quotes if applicable.

 

[Kolibri]

John is simply writing down what he was told to write. "Is to come" is a designation of Jesus Christ who is to come to reign. You can't look at it any other way.

The first time Jesus speaks in the first person in this book is in Re 1:11, we learn this because the speaker both John and the speaker identify him in the following verses.

Let's read Re 1:4,5a together, please.

John to the seven congregations that are in the province of Asia: May you have undeserved kindness and peace from "the One who is and who was and who is coming" (the one mentioned in vs 8) and from the seven spirits (Re 4:5) that are before his throne, and from Jesus Christ, "the Faithful Witness," (Re 3:14) "the firstborn from the dead," (Col 1:18) and "the Ruler of the kings of the earth." (Ps 89:27; 1 Tim 6:15)

Verse 7 continues about Jesus, "Look! He is coming...." It does not say, "I am coming." John is still writing

I can not see how the sentence fragment "is to come" or "who is coming" in verse 8 defines the speaker as Jesus. This fragment in its entirety is "the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty." Does that not remind us of this passage?

Before the mountains were born
Or you brought forth the earth and the productive land,
From everlasting to everlasting, you are God.
- Psalm 90:2

 

[rstrats]

Kolibri,
re: " I answered this in post #46..."


I don't see in that post where you provided any writing from the 1st century or before which shows that a daytime and/or a night time was said to be involved with an event when the event absolutely couldn't have included at least a portion of the daytime and at least a portion of the night time.

 

[Kolibri]

Kolibri,
re: " I answered this in post #46..."


I don't see in that post where you provided any writing from the 1st century or before which shows that a daytime and/or a night time was said to be involved with an event when the event absolutely couldn't have included at least a portion of the daytime and at least a portion of the night time.

Then you are right, I cannot provide an example that I am aware of that includes a portion of both lighted and unlighted parts of the day in the expression "day and night". As Esther's account did seem to include portions of both day and night on the 3rd day.

We do know Jesus was dead for a portion of day and night of Nisan 14, all of the 15th, and at least a portion of the night of the 16th. However with the two Marys arriving "when it was growing light", with Jesus already gone, there may be no portion of the daylight hours of the 16th whereby he was dead. It is speculative as it how close in time the Marys' arrival was to first hint of light. Did they just miss Jesus? Had he been awake for a few minutes or a few hours? The account is silent.

Is this enough reason to discredit the reference to Jonah?