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Was Muhammad mad?

Regolith Based Lifeforms

Early Earth Was Not Sterile
It is difficult to eat without using your hands, never mind the risk of infection.

According to this the punishments are not the same – Islam and Stealing

Stealing

Are Muslims allowed to steal?

Muslims may not steal from each other; in fact, Muhammad had people's hands cut off for that. But the same is not true of unbelievers.

Property rights for non-Muslims exist only at the discretion of their Muslim rulers. Non-submissive infidels frequently had their property stolen from them by Muhammad's warriors, which sometimes included wives and children.

As quoted above ‘There is no such thing as moderate Islam. Those Muslims who reject cutting off hands for theft are disregarding an explicit rule in the Quran. This makes them subject to punishment from true believers, since they are hypocrites by definition (see 66:9).’
That's the real Islam from the real rule book.
How many of them do you think actually will go along with it and try to kill us?
Can anyone here imagine a religion that orders it's adherents to murder all non-believers including family?
On the flip side, what's it like to live in a religion where you have to murder others to save your own life?
There's a REASON for the occurrence of the Crusades long ago.
There's a REASON to have another.
1.7 BILLION people are Muslims. One quarter of them are fundamentalist and WILL kill non-believers.
US population: ~ 324 million
.25 % of 1.7 billion: 400 million
And Muhamhead sometimes used his own wives and children to carry out punishments AKA terrorist attacks.
Don't tell me women and children won't kill like true predators.
I'm a TRUE Non-Believer and possibly an endangered species.
 
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BSM1

What? Me worry?
This is only one stupid beliefs of Muhammad, what do you think ?.

Wouldn't you be? No Walmart. No Cosco. That would be enough to tick off the Pope.


Introduce proper hygiene and sanitation to primitive cultures. Problem solved.
I don't know about other left-handed people, but I wipe with my right. I also thoroughly wash my hands so it's a moot point.

What is this "wipe" you speak of?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
It is difficult to eat without using your hands, never mind the risk of infection.

Good reason for not to steal.

According to this the punishments are not the same – Islam and Stealing

Stealing

Are Muslims allowed to steal?

Muslims may not steal from each other; in fact, Muhammad had people's hands cut off for that. But the same is not true of unbelievers.

Property rights for non-Muslims exist only at the discretion of their Muslim rulers. Non-submissive infidels frequently had their property stolen from them by Muhammad's warriors, which sometimes included wives and children.

As quoted above ‘There is no such thing as moderate Islam. Those Muslims who reject cutting off hands for theft are disregarding an explicit rule in the Quran. This makes them subject to punishment from true believers, since they are hypocrites by definition (see 66:9).’

Booties of war isn't stealing, but taking the belongs of a peaceful person regardless of his religion
isn't allowed, that's actually a common sense.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I too do not believe that Mohammad was mad. For me, he was one of the smartest persons in the world. Just count the number of wives and slaves which his right hand held.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Okay, but how would that make it less stupid?

The stupid thing is to believe a story without full investigation, so when I see a story talking
about eating with the left hand is the work of evil while not seeing it in the quran then that
means the story itself is the work of evil and the mad ones believe it to be an Islamic issue.
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
How can one be mad and go to war with 1,000 vs 10,000 soldiers and come out victorious? Maybe some people don't like Muhammad because he reminds them of their own failures.
 

Regolith Based Lifeforms

Early Earth Was Not Sterile
I too do not believe that Mohammad was mad. For me, he was one of the smartest persons in the world. Just count the number of wives and slaves which his right hand held.
Hmmm-Hmmm
and we're supposed to use that as a measure of Mohamhead's sanity?

If i were a judge, i wouldn't allow an insanity plea from a guy like that (or you).
There's a REASON Charlie Manson's still in prison never to be paroled.
I see no difference between the two men in their motives and methodologies.
Even if they are both insane, i will deny it and thereby their right to freedom under our laws.
Thank God Mohamhead is dead.
TO ALL:
Learn the warning signs!
Learn the reasons WHY!
Anti-social behavior cannot prevail under the light of reason and examination.
The trick is NOT to be afraid to consistently confront immediately and not back down.
Not to risk physical harm to one's self or others,, there are many hidden quiet ways to not back down, most of them available to most US citizens under our present laws when they are properly and quickly applied.
 

Lorgar-Aurelian

Active Member
How can one be mad and go to war with 1,000 vs 10,000 soldiers and come out victorious? Maybe some people don't like Muhammad because he reminds them of their own failures.
I would rather call him a liar, and if you read up a bit you'd know he didn't actually command those armies. Sure he was at the front but there were much more experienced muslims during those battles. He also didn't stay outnumbered did he? No he stormed into mecca with a larger army and destroyed religious art.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
How can one be mad and go to war with 1,000 vs 10,000 soldiers and come out victorious? Maybe some people don't like Muhammad because he reminds them of their own failures.

My sense is that he was smart, charismatic, a good politician, and a good general. But I also think he was a liar, a hypocrite, and probably a sociopath - much like many of today's politicians :confused:
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
My sense is that he was smart, charismatic, a good politician, and a good general. But I also think he was a liar, a hypocrite, and probably a sociopath - much like many of today's politicians :confused:

How can one be a hypocrite when one is known to be as trustworthy?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
How can one be a hypocrite when one is known to be as trustworthy?

My studies of Muhammad have not led me to the conclusion that he was trustworthy. Just because a claim is made, doesn't mean the claim is true.

Let me give you another example: Many, many, many times in the Quran the claim is made that Allah is merciful. But if you read the Quran with an objective perspective, Allah seems to be anything BUT merciful. So things like trustworthiness and mercifulness are proved through actions, not words.
 
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